Most of you (I assume) will have heard about, or even taken part in, the Npowerstadium competitions on twitter and facebook - winning both top prizes £10k for the stadium attendance competition and £20k for the noise competition for the club. The competition ended on Friday and we were all notified yesterday. Oh yes, officially we are the noisiest fans in the land The prizes cannot be used to pay wages or debts. So the administrator has decided that the £30k will be used to offset the new season tickets prices for next season. However the season ticket prices were set in May, before the competition, so no season ticket holder will actually get the benefit because there will be no change in the season ticket prices - what it does mean though is that the prize money can now just go into the clubs general coffers. To win both competitions means that Pompey supporters worked very hard to win this money for the club, I think it was something like 11,000 tweets made by the fans over a 3-4 week period. Do you think that chucking this money into the general funds is a good thing to do or could it have been used in a more innovative and public way (like fixing the toilets maybe) or some kind of promotional package to attract the next generation of fans? I'm just interested in your views - I know the club needs money but to me it just feels like yet another rip-off.
Rickie before you comment you really need to get your facts right first. The charities who were "ripped off" in the first administration were paid from funds raised by the Pompey fans and others, I do know that Chelsea fans contributed to the funds and I'm sure there were others. The fans raised more than the amount that was owed to charities. This time there were 2 or 3 charities who were going to receive donations from the £2 admin fee attached to the sale of tickets on the day in October/November. This is not money owed to them in the strictest sense, at least one charity was surprised to hear from the administrator that they were even going to be given a donation. The charities have been dealt with. Now move on from that - it's getting old and tired.
My first thought on reading the thread was to suggest a statue of 'Gentleman Jim' outside the ground. However, a charitable donation of some kind would be more public spirited.
Virtually speaking... http://m.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/pompey/pompey-past/fans-net-cash-windfall-for-pompey-1-3942165
As it was the fans that won the money, the club should do something which benefits them (as well as the club) as a good will gesture for their continuing support through these times
I would out it towards the phoenix club. I really think after Rangers yesterday, the same will happen to Pompey within the next two weeks. You now have to wait another season to have a team in a league as the AGM date has passed. Any money raised by fans should have gone straight into a 'kitty' for future club. This was I feel is on its last breath. Sorry if this sounds harsh but it looks highly unlikely any good will come out of this and also some people just haven't realised, even now, the severity of the situation!
I can't understand who it is you think hasn't understood the severity of the situation. What we all do understand is that Chanrai will not allow the club to go into liquidation until he has got his money back - ergo the club will continue one way or another for at least 3 more years. We certainly don't have to wait another season to be able to play - the process of coming out of admin is underway as there is a buyer for the club, actually 2 buyers, Chanrai and the PST. There isn't going to be a phoenix club - that was the Supporters Trust's message being spouted for ages, but was never anything other than a final solution "if all else failed". You may be too young to remember the old adage "while there's life - there's hope"!
I'm sure Rickie means well, 3rd eye, but does seem to get easily confused at times. Sometimes, his posts do antagonise Pompey fans, by the very nature of how they are written and presented. I'd like to believe this is not deliberate, and he isn't "wumming".
It just seemed like a sinking ship for a while... Not meaning to wind up anyone. It's just saying what a lot of football fans think...
It just seemed like a sinking ship for a while... More like "listing" - yes we know we are in the "perfect storm". Not meaning to wind up anyone. But managing to - your posts used to be very well thought out and relevant. It's just saying what a lot of football fans think... Just because somebody thinks it doesn't make it fact. More interested in what you think rather than seeing regurgitated ignorant thoughts from the masses.
As it stands now, I can't really see a way out. You can't continue in L1 with the wage bill as it is, as it would doubtlessly break the 65% rule, and there's been no luck in shifting the high earners. Furthermore, Chinny's CVA proposal is contingent on the high earners leaving. As I see it, its the trust or oblivion.
The transfer market will start moving in a couple of weeks - things are always quite quiet in June, everyone (except me) away on holiday - so I fully expect to see movement in July. Those who don't find another club will get compromise agreements - our players aren't all stupid, they know they have to leave - apart from (allegedly) TBH, he will just have to go abroad where he isn't really known for being a money-grabbing mercenary. As I see it, it's the Trust or Chinny - oblivion is not on the horizon, however bad things look at the moment. Did you know that we are not actually under a transfer embargo? Most of us thought we were, but apparently not, although the FL won't let Pompey add to its wage bill.
Isn't it 'one out - one in'? .... I think we are 'in credit' if that's the case, although we will have to bring in players on lower wages than the ones that leave!
Apologies for making a same topic thread, I'll check more thoroughly next time. A few questions concerning this matter... Is this official? How come you had this information yesterday yet The News printed these statements today.. But later in the same article states this..... I'm confused This season, next season, 70 percent? Really? 70 PERCENT? Where the **** has that estimation come from? I can only conclude that if your information is accurate then The News publication/website is total BS. http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/pompey/pompey-past/fans-net-cash-windfall-for-pompey-1-3942165
No problem Furcough - double threads happen at times. I came across the information re the funding the season tickets via twitter yesterday. (I'm quick of the ball ) 70%? Yes I'm as confused as you are - apparently it would work out at £6 x 5000 season tickets - in the 2012/13 season, which is now next season as it doesn't start until 1 August (I believe, but could be wrong on that date). I think the paper may be referring to the reduction in season ticket prices for 2012/13 - which was set, and began selling, in May, so how the administrator could have factored the prize money into his calculations back then is beyond my comprehension. I haven't seen the rules of the competition but it apparently is limited to 5 categories. It cannot be used to pay debts, pay wages or to give to charity. I have also heard that a fan from each of the clubs will be chosen at random to decide on behalf of the fans how best to use the money. However that is something I read so may not be accurate - but this is definitely a fan-based competition so it would make sense. It is a badly written article and seems to have not been researched too well by the News. It isn't the first time they've been scrappy with their articles.
Many others are just as confused having just read some of the replies/comments about the article, you're right it is scrappy. So I visited the official Portsmouth football club website hoping some light would be shed on the situation....The very same scrappy article from the Portsmouth News was the only information available in relation to the competition win. I have however found this statement (which you previously alluded to) and it seems legit... So the club chooses the 5 options and the random fan picks one, hopefully this procedure is adhered to. Can't find any info on what those 5 options are/were yet.
Okay Furcough - following your post I thought I'd dig a bit deeper. I've pasted the whole article from the Football League site: Here's the link. http://www.football-league.co.uk/ch...y-fans-win-30000-for-portsmouth_2293322_28090 So it looks as though 1 of the 5 categories chosen by PFC was to offset the season ticket reductions. Which, as already pointed out........ just puts the money into the coffers as the competition had not been won when season ticket prices (which had to reduce because we are in a lower league) were set.
Thanks for providing that info/link..That proves the competition organisers are either gullible or corrupt,imo. So not only did they choose the 5 categories, they also misled the organisers and took the Fanpower part of the competition out of the equation. Also the incentive statement posted on every participating clubs website accounted for nothing. If it wasn't Portsmouth involved it would seem too shady to believe. The Pompey fans have been shafted again. Fannopower Stadium competition more like.
