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Is Running Bad for You?

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  1. luvgonzo

    luvgonzo Pisshead

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    So some pundits and media muppets have decided that the current injury crisis is down to Klopp making the poor little footballers run much.

    Facts are that when we have covered more distance than our opposition and made more sprints we have won. So I'm thinking that running the ****ers into the ground is a good thing.

    Being serious for a moment though I'm not aware of Dortmund having huge injury problems during Klopps time and feel that the lazy journos and other idiots are just starting to look for way to criticise Klopp.

    The games we have lost this season are when the players have clearly been lazy and not pressed hard. In those games we have lost and the opposition has covered more distance.

    How about these idiots actually do some research before spouting off.
     
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  2. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    It's simple. Guys start going down in droves after many games in short time and guys will speculate why.

    Nobody remembers souness in 1990s cracking several lfc players so glass houses and stones.

    I remember fat Paul Stewart and Jan molly getting hammys

    Rossiter got played by England in two games right on top of each other and they crocked him

    England crocked gomez too... Anyone blaming england?

    Fact is lfc have injuries..... We've played a lot of games and rotated less.
     
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    BBFs Unpopular View Well-Known Member

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    Of course this didn't happen at Dortmund, cos they have a winter break there <ok>

    Just more reactionary after the fact pseudo logic
     
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  4. Jimmy Squarefoot

    Jimmy Squarefoot Well-Known Member

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    Dortmund didn't have many injuries until last season.

    We can blame it on running but players like Sakho, Kolo and Lovren have all been injured and none do as much running as the likes of Clyne, Moreno or Can who are still going strong.

    Having said, that I blame the previous regime - poor training, fitness levels weren't good enough.
     
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    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Sahko got two kicks

    coutinho has aggrevated his.

    kolo was unfit all year. he's dropped on numerous europa ooccasions and stiffened up

    Lovern and skertl (who you forgot) both were stretching on tackles when theirs went. They were injuries in stretching not running.

    I remember john aldridge doing his hamstring in the 1980s doing jumping jacks trying to get fit.

    You are right, so far clyne, moreno are having to get up and down the line and run more and they have not got anything.

    I totally agree Rodgers didn't have them anywhere near fit enough. They'd go for maybe 20mins each half even when squarez was here. He deffo didn't have them near fit enough.
     
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  6. Definitely!!!
     
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  7. It is a freakish amount of hamstring injuries but it's a bit silly blaming the Klopp pressing tactics when CB'S are dropping too, they don't press!
     
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    We were already near the top of the injury list before Klopp even came

    Since then we've had the most number of games of any club in the PL
     
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  9. FedLadSonOfAnfield

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    I dunno. How many kms does Mo Farah do in a year and how many hamstring injuries does he get ??
     
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  10. DirtyFrank

    DirtyFrank Well-Known Member

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    It's just lazy" foreigner with his mad schemes" journalism.

    Listen to top English coach fat sam...he lets his players rest 5 days a week....works perfectly lol
     
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    DirtyFrank Well-Known Member

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    And looking at the injury list for whole league.

    93 injured.

    28 are hamstrings

    28 knee injuries

    Newcastle have the same amount of unjuries as us yet do not play the same way.

    Spurs play a similar game to us but have one of the fewest injuries.
     
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  12. LuisDiazgamechanger

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    Can any good thing come from Tabloid, Sad to say that big Sam joined the bandwagon too.
     
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    jenners04 I must not post porn!

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    go and sit in the corner and eat your maccie d fatboy <laugh>
     
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  14. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid
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    Deffo this <ok>
     
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    Dortmund had plenty of similar soft tissue injuries according to one of his former coaches

    http://talksport.com/football/liver...lar-injury-problems-under-jurgen-klopp-former

    The Christmas period takes its toll on PL players due to the number of games. When you add to that the intensity that Klopp is trying to create, together with the fact that he was pissed off with some of your performances and supposedly had your players working extremely hard in training, as well as having a crammed Christmas programme, I don't think that it's any great surprise that you've suffered a whole host of soft tissue injuries. Some of the responsibility must lie with Klopp, some simply lies with the fixture list.
     
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    It all depends if Klopp has made a significant increase in the players training schedules in a short space of time. If he has, then that could have an impact as the players bodies will be under additional stress which then leads to injuries. Added to this, the recent bad weather will have led to heavier pitches which again will increase the strain, particularly on hamstrings.

    Klopp is a learned man. If he has made a mistake he will learn quickly from it and move on.
     
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    We havent had time to train!

    Ibe injured

    If its because we're running more on the pitch then they'll have to get used to it. Im pleased to see us putting more effort in during games
     
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    Mweh...the alternative would be..he comes in..sees everyone is riduculously unfit for what he wants...does it slowly and gets the game effort he wants by end of season...meanwhile we got exactly the same results by continuing to play like a BR team.

    Rather he does master chief on their asses and finds out who is too pussy to hack it. I'm not talking who avoids injury but who can hack the intensity level he wants and keeps coming back for more...

    Then add more like minded players to those remaing after they've had a rest (they'll all be too injured to play in the Euros) nice early pre season and off we go! Lol
     
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    http://www.fourfourtwo.com/features...rking-him-those-whove-done-it#:bw0Vy6POsKAo6A


    Defender Tim Hoogland, who Klopp signed for Mainz back in 2007, remembers the fundamental rule of working for Klopp.

    “You have to run. That’s it,” he says. “I think this is one of the important things you have to know about him. The whole team has to run 120 km (74.5 miles) collectively every game. 120km minimum [laughs].”

    It was the same target Klopp set his Borussia Dortmund side when he joined them in the summer of 2008.

    “In his first year he said he wouldn't guarantee anything apart from that when we reached 120km per game then it would be much harder for us to lose,” recalls Owomoyela, who now works as a football analyst for Sky Germany.

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    “He actually offered us a day off when we reached that target. He thought that if we reached that then we would win the game. And from then on it became easy because we understood that his plan would work.”

    Though the German was insistent on his players clocking up kilometres on the pitch, his training sessions relayed the importance of running with purpose. Hoogland, the ex-Fulham stopper now of VfL Bochum in Germany’s second tier, says: “Winning the ball is one of the main parts of his training sessions.”

    Owomoyela concurs. “Every practice was with the ball,” the former Germany international recalls. “There would be one day where you would shoot a lot, putting in crosses and such. Then other days you had a mini tournament in the second training session of the day; five vs five. On another day there would be 11 vs 11, so you would use everything that you learnt from the video study so you can put that into a real game.



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    Klopp's training sessions keep players on their toes
    “There was something different every day of the week. You never just ran through the regular season. Just running was never an option; you had to run with or for the ball.

    “He has a good eye for what the team needs too. Over the years it changed a little: if you work together for so long, there's a routine in everything and that flattens out the bumps.”


    Read more at http://www.fourfourtwo.com/features...g-him-those-whove-done-it#dG0kKGQ0bR4YVuCK.99
     
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  20. Jürgenmeiʃter

    Jürgenmeiʃter Top top top top top flirt

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    Lots more on that 442 link to read ifyou havent already
     
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