Lots of speculation in the press about who is and isn't being offered the Liverpool job - some of it surrounding the structure of the LFC hierarchy in the future.... Got me thinking; is managing a team like Wigan and Villa from top to bottom more attractive than working under a DoF at a club like Liverpool? I would suggest that it will be difficult to coax someone to the club who has his own footballing philosophy to be a 'head-coach' and nothing more. I generally don't like to comment or speculate until a decision is made as we do not know what the vision for the club is but thanks to the loud mouthed Whelan, it seems we know more than we should! Worrying times to be honest; I fear years in the real wilderness akin to Spurs pre 'arry......this appointment is THAT critical.
I agree that it is a cruial time, we need the right man in place. Who that will be is still anyones guess.
I think FSG know how critical this appointment is which is why they're taking their time. I also believe they're re-structure will modernise the club. I think they've looked at the club structure of LFC, then looked at the structure of other clubs, then probably looked at strutche of top businesses before cafefully planning how to expliot the advantages of each. Football is a business now, you can't have a manager do everything (have you seen the documentarys showing behind the scenes at a football club) the problem with Liverpool of the past is that the manager has been left to do everything with not point of escalation, it's the main theme of Brian Reade's book, it was Rafa's main frustration. The American's know they cannot be there to say yes to everything and i'm sure their long term aim is to have Liverpool FC just run itself but they need to ensure that it can do that properly first. A young manager/head coach will bring progessive modern tactics, an older more experianced reputable name will bring players and the right directoral structure will ensure that we have the right people in place to pull the trigger on big deals. I honestley think this is a win win for fans!
I don't disagree with this, I'm just wondering if we'll get the right quality of coach in a new structure. Coaches on the continent are used to working like this but the better young coaches over here are used to being the big fish in the pond......I'd also point out that unless you 'get lucky' and stumble upon a perfect, successful combination (dof/coach), it tends to lead to something of a revolving door - Look at Real Madrid for example.....Mourinho now has all of the power after years of in-fighting and managerial change in a structure not too dissimilar to what I believe we will have very soon. Interesting but nervous times; get it right and we progress, get it wrong and years in the wilderness??
The structure is the key element for me, not the manager. If whoever gets the manager job doesn't work out we just get another one until we find our gem. Providing the structure is in place the club will continue to progress until we find our next Shankly Strap yourselves in boys - this is gunna be one hell of a ride!!
I agree. Having the right structure in place will ensure we'll have a good future. Using Barca as an example, they have a structure which ensures that the vision, ethos and philosophy is the same at every level of the club. This helped Pep continue his work as the B team coach, to the first team. And now we will see Tito Villanova take over and I doubt there will be too much of a change.
may i just ask one thing... what precisely have spurs done bar qualify twice for the cl under harry... is that success after barren years?
They did get to the quarter finals in the CL, and do play good football. I think Spurs are 2 or 3 players away from a title challenge. If they had good CL for next season, they could have signed thse players, and maybe they still will.
It's not like they're looking for two people (more, depending on how they split the old DoF role) who are good at their jobs and nothing else, they want people who share similar visions. If you look at the names we're linked with the most (no smoke without fire), the managers are mostly young and play attacking football - Martinez, Rogers, Pep, Klopp, etc - the DoF links are the former Barca man and the former Ajax/Bayern/Barca man. I'm not anticipating any clashes given the likely options, I reckon they'd share similar ideas and create a good team to progress under. I think for people who share that vision, there's lots of advantages to managing Liverpool under such a new setup, alot less pressure and alot less workload.
Not so sure that's the case now...they'll lose 2/3 players this summer as well as Adebayor, so it all depends on how they replace them.
Agree that in a perfect world, this would be the case. To start with, you'd hope that the DoF would hire the coach. Professional football is a game full of egos, power and politics; I'd suggest that it won't be easy to get right first time. Am looking forward to learning about the vision, structure and personnel soon
It all depends on Bale and Modric I guess. I think Adebayor will stay with them. I think Bale is possible the best player in English football. If he goes Spurs should be asking for £40-60 million IMO. With that they could buy a lot. Add a possible £20 mill for Modric. Modric doesnt score so many goals. If they replace him with a goal scoring mid they could be a lot stronger.
Adebayor is on obscene wages. Spurs can't and won't afford that and I'd be amazed if he took a 50% wage cut to be able to play for them. He'll be back in City's reserve team next year or out on loan again (in which case I hope we ask about him!) Bale the best in English football? =/ He's a quality left winger...that's about it. He's never worth 40-60mill if, going by this summer's market, players like Cavani, Higuain, RVP, Hazard and Levezzi are going for 25-35mill. He'll only stay if Levy is stubborn again and thinks he's worth more than he actually is, in which case Spurs might have an unhappy player on ther books again. Modric will be off to either United or Chelsea.
Your question is down to individual opinion so is very hard to answer. I'd personally be driven by ambition rather than control, if the structure allows for an input then I would opt for the Liverpool option (ignoring all biasness here). However, from a fans point of view, I'd rather FSG / Liverpool have a plan and stick to it rather then alter to suit a certain managers needs.
They was fighting relegation when he took over and they are now considered to be regular CL challengers. They play some of the most exciting football to watch in the EPL too. If only they have a defence
if success is measure in such terms i think we're all shooting too high. I mean obviously utd have been over achieving for years and should try the spurs model then... of course arsenal have been on that model quite nicely for what 7 years now? I think i'll stand with kenny on this one and take my silverware cos you just wait til spurs get the player revolts happening modric to anyone who'll bid etc etc
Success and acheivements are a different thing IMO You asked what 'Arry had acheived at Spurs and I answered. I don't think he has been successful although he has successfully acheived the above if that was the target put to him. Like you, I prefer a cup. Especially when Spurs have ended up with a Europa League spot just like us but we have a trohpy to show for it
