History can't ****ing change. Do Arsenal not count anything from when they were called The Arsenal? Or when they were called Woolwich?
Yeah, then he will be known as "Phil Brown, manager of Hull City in the days before their embarrassingly tacky name change"
EXACTLY WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING DMD pulled up some journalistic **** (I couldn't be arsed to read it cos I knew it was wrong) about how how history of a specific event would change. dunno why he bothered, we all know he's full of ****.
Arsenal dropped the Woolwich when they moved. Patty's been bleating that crap, and we all know how thick he is. Of course history can change, that's what historians research and why history books get upgraded. Even your own memory can be manipulated. Eye witness accounts are notoriously poor, so first reports will be adjusted as more information becomes available, but often even that is a consensus. Events are written by the victors and can then be reinterpreted by people with their own agendas. Have a google, there's a wealth of academic papers on how history changes.
The idea is correct but this is just a football club's name... It's not like there's an almighty power coming into play that will taboo "Hull City" from being uttered in public, wipe out all previous video footage, merch, results and stats etc. History could be manipulated years ago and still can now to a lesser extent, but with values such as free speech and in the context of a football club rather than a global war or new world superpower it just seems like a really sensationalist reason to be against the name change. It's not the strongest string on the bow.
Hull City AFC will never win another game if the FA back the change. The history of the Club we follow will end. History is manipulated more now than it ever was. We had a decade of an administrative area called Humberside last century, and some daft twats still think we're not Yorkshire.
Didn't know everyone was such a bunch of drama queens. History. Will. Not. Change. Hull City AFC got promoted in 2008, and if the name change happens, Hull City AFC still got promoted in 2008. That is history. It will not change.
I think you've got yourself dragged into an argument and picked up the wrong end of it altogether, however, Hull City AFC will itself be history if the name change goes ahead. Hull City will never win anything again.
Yes it will be history lol, but that's exactly my point. History will preserve it. Everyone seems to be going on as if the history of the club will be destroyed.
Nope, as I said, you've picked up the wrong end of another issue. However, the end of Hull City is more serious than you seem to suggest. The history of Hull City will end. Any dreams of seeing Hull City in Europe or Hull City lifting the FA cup are over.
By name only though... it's essentially still the same club. If the change is approved it'll be the same ground, staff, players, manager, many of the same fans and ironically the same city. I'm against the name change, mainly because I don't see the point in it. I also can't believe Allam's behaviour throughout the process. What bugs me more isn't the fact he wanted to change the name, more his insistence and attitude even after realising there's been a backlash. However, if it does go ahead it wouldn't be the end of the world for me. Other than the name itself, very little will have changed. I'd even guess that we'd still be referred to as 'Hull City' for years to come, by our fans and the national public.
No, it will be a new club with a new tacky name imitating the 110 year old one we all support. What's in a name? Let's call it Hull Tampax then if the name doesn't matter. Then maybe Hull Amex or Hull Wang or Hull Hewlett Packard. Then Hull Lucky Dragons and so on. Truly a crass and ill-thought out plan. Mind you, it's rooted in spite after the Corpo rebuffed his plan to buy/develop the KC and environs.
The events may have happened, but the future understanding, recording and interpretation of past events is ever changing and changeable. You have a wealth of information at your finger tips, have a google on why history changes.
It won't be a new club though will it! We'd start with new players in the conference if that was the case. One day we'll be Hull City, the next we could be Hull Tigers. The same players will go to the same training ground that day. Also, your Tampax argument is stupid frankly. Completely unmarketable. There is something to a name, where did I say our 'doesn't matter'?... But if our name does change, at no point have you lost your club unless you're willing to cut your nose off to spite your face. Don't buy the merch... support the team. The same one you've been rooting for so far.
Well, to go back to what the quote was originally in response to, if 'Hull Tigers' win the FA Cup, the only Hull football team have won the FA Cup. It would be the same squad, manager and fans and I'd be immensely proud. It's technically correct that you won't ever see 'Hull City' win the FA Cup but it's still Hull's football team and players. Even then, with the above being said, a new owner would most likely just change our name straight back and I honestly can't see Allam remaining any longer than he has to.
I've had a tenner on City to win the FA cup at 50/1, it'd be just my luck that we win the ****er as Hull Tigers and I don't get paid out!
