1. Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!

Is Bruce just.... Crap?

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Chappaz, Dec 1, 2011.

  1. Chappaz

    Chappaz Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2011
    Messages:
    6,754
    Likes Received:
    12
    Now most managers out there near the top flight are fairly good. However, there are obvious ups and downs in football, so whilst a manager may have a good pedigree, he may struggle at certain clubs. It's nothing against the natural ability of the manager - sometimes managers and teams, or managers and clubs, don't click. After a bad period, they may go on to another club and do very well.

    However, I've been reading about Bruce's history, and frankly it just seems ****e from start to finish. I'm astounded this man has been seeked out for so many managerial jobs, and I'm even more astounded that Newcastle repeatedly went for the guy to take over from Sir Bobby and Keegan.

    He's managed these 7 clubs so far:

    1998–1999 Sheffield United
    1999–2000 Huddersfield Town
    2001 Wigan Athletic
    2001 Crystal Palace
    2001–2007 Birmingham City
    2007–2009 Wigan Athletic
    2009–2011 Sunderland

    Allow me to share some examples of what happened at each club:

    1998–1999 Sheffield United

    1999–2000 Huddersfield Town

    2001 Wigan Athletic

    2001 Crystal Palace

    2001–2007 Birmingham City

    2007–2009 Wigan Athletic

    2009–2011 Sunderland

    You guys know the rest.

    --------

    Now I've highlighted the positives: he secured promotion to the EPL twice. However, his entire managerial history smacks of Bruce's limitations and what he's only capable of doing:

    - Getting mediocre mid-table results
    - Getting promoted from the Championship
    - Surviving relegation (sometimes)
    - Mediocre spending ability

    There's absolutely nothing there which is remotely positive. No real 'onwards and upwards' achievements and never anything more than mid-table results, with a suspicious habit of finding his teams in lengthy runs of bad form.

    You just have to look at what every footie fan knows of Bruce now, and then compare it to his managerial history, to find that it's virtually the same in so many respects. Even with the one opportunity he had to manage a big club like Sunderland with a BIG budget (especially compared to his other past clubs) he was still stuck in his poor ways.

    Until I see evidence, I have to reason to believe that Bruce will ever be suitable as a manager for a team which has ambition to improve and thrive in the top flight.
     
    #1
  2. ...And Out Come the Wolve

    ...And Out Come the Wolve New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2011
    Messages:
    2,309
    Likes Received:
    92
    In response to the title only, yes.
     
    #2
  3. Commachio

    Commachio Rambo 2021

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    92,685
    Likes Received:
    43,150
    Well he is from Corbridge i believe.

    He's one of yours as you all have told us for months.
     
    #3
  4. ...And Out Come the Wolve

    ...And Out Come the Wolve New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2011
    Messages:
    2,309
    Likes Received:
    92
    They do have form for suspect professionalism.
     
    #4
  5. Commachio

    Commachio Rambo 2021

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    92,685
    Likes Received:
    43,150
    Yep seems like the SDA boys want it all their own way.
     
    #5
  6. Cest Advocaat

    Cest Advocaat Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2011
    Messages:
    13,129
    Likes Received:
    230
    Not at all.

    What he does need to do though is recognise his limitations and find a club that suits him. That way, he will be happier, that club will be happier and their fans will be also. Bruce will be successful and stress free.

    I see Bruce in the Holloway sort of mould. If is no bigger than a Wigan or blackpool type of manager and there is nothing wrong with that.

    What we didn't need was That small club mentality here at Sunderland. Stick to your comfort zone Steve, for everyone's sake.
     
    #6

  7. Bizarreknives

    Bizarreknives Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    3,675
    Likes Received:
    1,674
    He has always been ****e, I just refused to believe it as he was my manager.
     
    #7
  8. Commachio

    Commachio Rambo 2021

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    92,685
    Likes Received:
    43,150
    Could you imagine Bruce with Holloways wit.......he may have had a little longer without all his whinging...and said it as it was.
     
    #8
  9. andersonhurleymcnab

    andersonhurleymcnab Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2011
    Messages:
    695
    Likes Received:
    2
    He's made a good living out of football.
    I wish I was a fiver behind him.

    I agree with Cest.
    Work within your limitations.
    That applies to us all.
     
    #9
  10. AH

    AH Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2011
    Messages:
    11,239
    Likes Received:
    20
    Chappaz why do you never make threads on our board anymore? <laugh>
     
    #10
  11. Commachio

    Commachio Rambo 2021

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    92,685
    Likes Received:
    43,150
    He loves us more than you...
     
    #11
  12. AH

    AH Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2011
    Messages:
    11,239
    Likes Received:
    20
    Fine, but that means we get to keep one of yours. Although we practically already have Agent Fat Mike and Cest. Can we have someone cooler? I think we got a bad deal.
     
    #12
  13. Commachio

    Commachio Rambo 2021

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    92,685
    Likes Received:
    43,150
    Who do ya want?
     
    #13
  14. trouble_n_stripes

    trouble_n_stripes Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2011
    Messages:
    1,102
    Likes Received:
    7
    Crap is a bit harsh, more mediocre, best suited trying his hand managing in and around League 1 & 2.

    Has Bizarre Knives put it you don't want to believe how bad a manager his whilst he still at the helm of your club, it's only when they are gone you accept they were useless.
     
    #14
  15. Chappaz

    Chappaz Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2011
    Messages:
    6,754
    Likes Received:
    12
    Nothing is really happening with us at the moment. Everything is rosey, and there's already discussions about Chelsea.

    Over here, on the other hand, I find the whole Bruce thing rather interesting. Bit of drama and all that.
     
    #15
  16. Steven Royston O'Neill

    Steven Royston O'Neill Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    19,511
    Likes Received:
    81
    we will send Bart over
     
    #16
  17. Commachio

    Commachio Rambo 2021

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    92,685
    Likes Received:
    43,150
    Soap opera queen.....owt for gossip...
     
    #17
  18. Sunderpitt

    Sunderpitt Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2011
    Messages:
    10,976
    Likes Received:
    14,470
    Bollocks! my Bro was born in Corbridge cos' he was an awkward twat and Mum needed rest in some hospital there prior to his birth. My Bro like me is a proud Geordie and Sunderland supporter.

    We has to get rid of Bruce cos' he was crap not about where he was born, he probably supports manure anyhow.
     
    #18
  19. Commachio

    Commachio Rambo 2021

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    92,685
    Likes Received:
    43,150

    Sorry to disappoint ya mate, but that's what i read...now if someone knows something else?
     
    #19
  20. AH

    AH Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2011
    Messages:
    11,239
    Likes Received:
    20
    Sid/Syd.. yourself? I dunno. I never come on here I'm not sure who everyone is <laugh>

    And NOT Bart <yikes>
     
    #20

Share This Page