Hypothetically, if we had a team like Man City, could we get 60,000 crowds?
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Only if the tickets were cheap enough.
Man City struggle to get people in because they have lots of games and football supporters aren't all wealthy.
We could get 60,000 against the big teams but not the likes of Brighton or Burnley.
I believe so.
always average around 40-45k in the prem with a poor side.
challenging for titles and being in the champions league would see us get 60,000
always average around 40-45k in the prem with a poor side.
challenging for titles and being in the champions league would see us get 60,000
Yes but it would take a few years of success to build it up and a lot would depend on where the mags were. When they were going for the league with Keegan we were absolutely hopeless so it was an easy decision for local young uns to choose them while we were awful at Roker Park. If they were in the championship and we were doing a Man City you would get the young ones and the weekend day trippers coming to watch Sunderland.
The only reason the likes of arsenal man Utd get regular big crowds is the fact of their world wide fanbase. Man utds attendances are boosted by thousands of fans from Scandinavia, Ireland etc.
Unfortunately for us even if we started to be successful we don't have the boost of outside influence of support
I did a favour for some Sunderland lads and queued for tickets at Highbury for the 'Dick Advocat relegation 0-0 match'.
I just happened to be in London the day before the match.
There were hundreds queuing but almost all foreigners, mostly tourists.
Just passing trade really and, as you say, something we don't get.
These sad Mags just make it too obvious don't they ...
... no fun in it tbh.
I sympathise that their club is in a mess, and they're frustrated, but it's still weird that they come on here.
I'd have thought they would have enough to worry about with cabbage heeed marching them to the championship but it seems not!
I think 50k is probably about our ceiling that we could pull off regularly. We'd need to be playing every season in the champions league for that to happen, though. I agree with the comments that's been mentioned about the likes of Man Utd, Liverpool etc. They've got massive following from all over the world and could easily sell 15k-20k tickets outside the UK for each home game and they've got support all over the UK. That's something we don't have and would take decades to build up.
In hindsight, we probably upgraded the stadium too soon and I'd be very reluctant to do it again because as soon the team dropped down the league, the crowds would drop and the stadium would start looking bare again.
In hindsight, we probably upgraded the stadium too soon and I'd be very reluctant to do it again because as soon the team dropped down the league, the crowds would drop and the stadium would start looking bare again.
Why is the only time you post is about attendance possibilities and how many fans you think we can get, I smell a mag
After half of their entire existence, without a current major trophy, attendances are all they have.
They don't get 52,000 every game and regularly give away tickets.
But, it's irrelevant anyway, gate revenue is very much a side issue ...
.... SJP is very quiet and there's no difference whether it's full or not.
The problem we have is people have been used to cheap season tickets and cheap tickets! So I'd think we would be lucky to even fill the stadium week in week out if we manage to get back into the premiership. It would definitely take us to be in Europe or in the top 5. But I'd love to see it.
The stadium size for us was perfect at 42,000.
That’s realistically where it should have stayed.
Despite averaging 34k or so in League One, we’ve all been there in various times of struggle when we’ve hovered around 22-24k.
That is our ‘hardcore’, you don’t build a 4 bed extension cos the in laws are visiting for a weekend.
That’s realistically where it should have stayed.
Despite averaging 34k or so in League One, we’ve all been there in various times of struggle when we’ve hovered around 22-24k.
That is our ‘hardcore’, you don’t build a 4 bed extension cos the in laws are visiting for a weekend.
I've always agreed with this. A smaller capacity would possibly get us bigger crowds in the prem. Could we get 60,000? Unlikely I'd imagine. Definitely for big games, but we're never likely to get the tourists. Even man City don't really seem to get loads of tourists and they've been class for years now. We're a bit of a journey, a lot of tourists visit London, they'd have to be really keen to venture here for a match. If we were mint I think we'd regularly sell out, but not sure we'd need anything bigger tbh
Thereabouts definitely. We know we can get close to 50. The local glory supporter kids who support Liverpool, Utd etc would choose us instead and we’d sway more Durhamers and South Tynesiders etc and we’d get more overseas folk , media and general football fans.
It’s a good point about City and they play matches here there and everywhere. We are a local team. Although we have fans all over the country it’s only because in the main, their family have roots here.
At the moment we couldn’t sustain massive crowds more than once a fortnight. I’d doubt we could even if we hit the dizzy heights. We are a poor working class area right now although many claim to be better off due to the virus, I am greatly out of pocket and it will take me and many others years to get over it.
At the moment we couldn’t sustain massive crowds more than once a fortnight. I’d doubt we could even if we hit the dizzy heights. We are a poor working class area right now although many claim to be better off due to the virus, I am greatly out of pocket and it will take me and many others years to get over it.
Yeah, cos all those glory hunting fans who jumped ship in the Keegoon era will jump straight back. Not proper fans, but there you have it.
We all know that gate money is small potatoes compared to TV money for the top tier of premiership clubs.
I think that the club would benefit more from safe standing than from simply increasing seat numbers. SAFC needs the ground to be rocking so that crowd noise becomes a weapon for the team and a huge draw for TV.
You young whippersnappers who have never experienced the cameraderie of heaving terraces have no idea just how they drive people to join in. How they increase the crowd noise, just by concentrating the more active fans into specific areas.
I would much rather keep the ground capacity as it is and put in safe standing terraces behind the goals.
I think that the club would benefit more from safe standing than from simply increasing seat numbers. SAFC needs the ground to be rocking so that crowd noise becomes a weapon for the team and a huge draw for TV.
You young whippersnappers who have never experienced the cameraderie of heaving terraces have no idea just how they drive people to join in. How they increase the crowd noise, just by concentrating the more active fans into specific areas.
I would much rather keep the ground capacity as it is and put in safe standing terraces behind the goals.