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International Football....wtf?

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  1. Keith Fit

    Keith Fit Well-Known Member

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    Right, I need some help on this because I cannot figure out for sh!t why England operate completely differently to the rest of the entire world when it comes to picking footballers.

    Here's how it TENDS to work in the domestic game, and I'm gonna pick Lord Alan of Pardew as an example:

    Lord Alan likes to play 4-4-2. He prefers it, it's his style. He's a sexy, modern man so occasionally tampers a little bit, but for the most part it's 4-4-2. Newcastle usually employ a kind of tactic that involves hard working players, a lot of miles covered. As we have seen from our play, picking fancy-boy Benny doesn't really work. He doesn't cover the ground, is a bit hit and miss. Engines like Tiote, Cabaye, Jonas, Gouffran, Anita, Enrique, etc., over the years have shone as examples of how Pardew likes to play the game. We do not play at our best with the eleven best footballers on the field, we play at our best when we have eleven players on the field who suit the managers vision. Am I or am I not right here? I used NUFC, you could use pretty much any team in the entire world. Except goddam, motherfooking England.....

    Roy Hodgson, by contrast, and many of his predecessors seem to completely negate this theory, instead going with something like a formation, then cramming Gerrard, Lampard, Barry and Milner across the midfield. No thought of "hmm, I need an attacking midfielder, so my first choice is going to be this guy" - no. What we get is the same players - and it's been going on for decades - picked on reputation and club form, then thrown into a different role and expected to excel. The only time we ever looked alright was, more or less, when we had Shearer and Sheringham playing up front; Venables and Hoddle both seemed to understand what was needed, to a point. Why do we get comfortably beat by Germany, by Chile? Chile, who picked Jara, a Nottm Forest centre back who wouldn't get into a single Prem team. The reason we get beat is the manager has a template and picks THE BEST PLAYERS FOR THOSE JOBS. I don't know why we don't get it, it makes me question the validity of football management full stop when something so basic seems to get in the way. Chris Smalling at centre back ffs? What, why or how does that happen when he's playing at right back for Man U (and even then only getting picked two games in every three). France were good to watch tonight - a lot of basics correct. Sakho and Varane complimented each other at the back, Pogba, Cabaye, Matuidi were a decent threesome across the middle. England - fcking dire. Why? Because no-one knew their jobs. They spend every day, every week playing a certain way then rock up for England and get thrown into a different position, but why???

    Apologies for length of rant, but it boils my fcking pi$$ that they whinge and whinge about "grass roots" yet can't even pick the right eleven at the top. I mean, other nations seem capable of getting decent results without the need to pick eleven from the Premier League, why the fck does it matter so much that England does?? Case in point is surely Adam Lallana, a League two player but four or so years ago. Scotland are under a renaissance - is it because the SPL is suddenly brilliant? The emergence of Inverness Caley Thistle the foundation for much-needed Scottish success? Is it fck. It's a manager with the ability to motivate for isolated games and who picks the right players for the positions he wants filled.

    Final point - why do England, ahead of ALL OTHER COUNTRIES, feel the need to throw players in for one cap? What in Christs name does it prove??? Surely the whole point is, again, that there is a system the England manager uses, and the players playing EVERY FCKING WEEK either will fit into it, or won't. What diffference does it makes playing in front of a packed Craven Cottage or a might-as-well-be-half-full Wembley? It's got to be EASIER, if anything.

    For me, all eyes on the state of England are pointed in the wrong direction. There's nothing wrong with picking players from the lower league - Sky/Foreign Money owns our top flight - we just haven't got the dignity or self-awareness to accept it. Pathetic. I got more excitement watching France qualify that I did watching England bore their way to Brazil.
     
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  2. Agent Bruce

    Agent Bruce Well-Known Member

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    That's what happens when you have the establishment appointing people like Woy to run things.
     
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  3. ClearlyDeludedGloryHunter

    ClearlyDeludedGloryHunter Well-Known Member

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    When we have clueless tossers at the FA then we're always going to get more of the following:

    1. A refusal to give the likes of Brian Clough a chance
    2. An amazing decision to sack the likes of Bobby Robson before he takes the team to the world cup and get England to the semi final.

    I have no time for these idiots and looking at the recent managerial appointments I have to say that I have lost interest in the English side and, in fact I have no interest in international football anymore. Let me know when the international break is over and we're back to the footie.
     
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    Agent Bruce Well-Known Member

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    It's just a job for the boys, the cousin of a cousin that's out of work and needs a job but doesn't have any qualifications.

    Seems that's the credentials required for a job at the FA. Not what you know but who you know.
     
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  5. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    Personally I think Roy is doing a good job. We have made a shed load of progress since the last tournament and we have a pretty direction where we are going formation and personnel wise. We are in transition however and it will take time. In terms of the two recent games, unfortunately this is the nature of these games. Managers experiment a little, players choose not to play. Look at Germany themselves, quite experimental, bit of a disjointed performance, players shoe horned in to get an idea of their level.

    Of course come Brazil our plaers will be ****ed again after another brutal season without a break, and we still won't be as good as the better nations because of arrogance towards coaching over the years, selling out our league and a variety of other ills which will now take over a decade to put right. Even then we still won't introduce a winter break because it doesn't fit with the money men.
     
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