Off Topic International Break Thread
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Some have said he should drop Trent, move Bellingham deeper to play alongside Rice and play Foden as the CAM. I’m not sure if that work and it could possibly nullify Bellingham but could be one solution.
I would do that. Bellingham has the engine to get up and down - his goal came from him coming from deep. Foden would need to produce though, as he hasn't done much recently for the national side. Gallagher did add some momentum when he came on, so he could replace Foden if he doesn't produce.
Danny Murphy has criticised Dragusin for celebrating a block towards the end of the game as he was only doing his job , nothing wrong with passion , in that case why would a striker celebrate a goal
I've heard that but we must be careful to decide if that is just a "solution" to getting Foden and Bellingham into the same team, or is it the solution to making the team better? This is not the same thing, though some who only look at the individual qualities of Foden and Bellingham assume it to be. As I said before the match (when I hoped I was wrong), I am thinking that they can't be in the same team and any attempt to do so - regardless of how it appears on paper - is going to nullify the effectiveness of one or both, or more importantly is going to reduce the overall effectiveness of the team. So I am going back to my original point of playing people in the positions they play for their club, even if it means getting "lesser names" into the team.
Oddly enough, the one person playing out of their club position in the last match who did fine was Tripps. For that reason I don't think we should try and rush Shaw back, because even if "fit" he won't be match fit and is a good example of my rule no.2 (rule no.1 is not playing players out of position), which is don't take broken players to tournaments hoping they will magically recover during them. Like rule no.1, I hope I'm wrong about that.
Danny Murphy shows as much passion and excitement as a second class stamp on an urgent letter.
I'd do this too.
It seems inevitable that we will need to play some players out of their strongest position. The key here is to minimise the numbers doing it (there were 3 against Serbia which is far too many), and delegate that task to your best players. Bellingham is one of them.
Eze or Gordon (probably the former) on the left, Foden central and Bellingham deeper and suddenly the team has a better balance to it with only one player, who is already one of the best in the world, playing out of position.
Yeah I’m not sure if Southgate is picking his best team or trying to fit in the best players. He would be brave (if it works) to drop Foden for Eze or Gordon, if he did that and England lost then he would be slaughtered by the media and fans.
He shouldn't be bothered what we or the media think. He should be focussed on the job.
I think your suggested option makes sense.
Realistically it matters little who Southgate picks, his ineptitude as a manager will always eventually prevent us from reaching the heights these players are capable of taking us.
Just like how Belgium wasted their golden generation on Roberto Martinez, we’re doing the exact same with him.
Just like how Belgium wasted their golden generation on Roberto Martinez, we’re doing the exact same with him.
Probably not. They're from different parts of Austria and played for different youth teams.
Nothing on either player's Wikipedia/Transfermarkt entries, either.
I missed it if the commentators mentioned that Serbia's Milos Veljkovic was once on our books, though.
Made 3 appearances back in the 13/14 season. Still only 28 and he's racked up 225 appearances for Bremen.
Thought he had a decent game, if a bit of a quiet one.
This advanced midfield position has only been where Bellingham plays for this past season, too. He’s obviously excellent at it but he was a box to box 8 before that so it’s hardly playing him out of position if we try and replicate that.
He shouldn’t but I’m fear he is. I’m just trying to make sense of how underwhelming Foden is for England when he’s class for City.
Foden is a truly magical player to watch but he just doesn’t know what he’s doing for England. He’s too highly coached, been in the City system for his whole life. International football relies on solid structure and moments from players and I think Foden struggles to think outside the system he lives in day to day.
He is the John Barnes of his generation, brilliant for his club, but pulls on the white shirt of England and its like Kryptonite is to superman. (JB scored one worldie at the Maracana and that was pretty much it as far as England was concerned) I think he got 70 odd caps and was the leagues best player season after season.