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Injuries....is there a link?

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by cumbrianmackem, Aug 24, 2016.

  1. cumbrianmackem

    cumbrianmackem Well-Known Member

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    Up till January we had several players laid up with various injuries until Sam got his methods in place (iced baths etc can't spell the fancy name for it).
    We went the last dozen or so matches virtually injury free and the results improved, yes the new signings helped.

    Well Sam left and within a few weeks our injury list started to grow, is this just a coincidence or has the club abandoned Sam's methods and we are seeing the results.

    I know Vito's was an accident, but hamstrings, hips, hernias etc seems to point to a change on the training front.

    Or am I seeing things that aren't actually there?
     
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  2. Commachio

    Commachio Rambo 2021

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    <laugh>. This is up there with Roswell and ET.
     
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  3. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

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    We were riddled with injuries under Moyes.
     
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  4. Commachio

    Commachio Rambo 2021

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    Dont encourage them ffs.
     
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  5. JustMeMan

    JustMeMan Well-Known Member

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    All will be fit after the deadline day.
    Nowt to worry about just little niggles.
     
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  6. cumbrianmackem

    cumbrianmackem Well-Known Member

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    Common,
    Those are still a mystery but that doesn't answer my query, nowt like a conspiracy theory.
     
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  7. Brian Storm

    Brian Storm Well-Known Member

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    Yes, You're seeing things that aren't actually there. Because Moyes didn't intervene with the rest of preseason. It takes planning, you can't just sweep in and change which is why it remained in place. Bracewell and Stockdale designed the preseason, big Sam signed it off publicly stating it's one of the best he's ever seen put together.

    Kirchoff is a crock, folk need to get used to that, he's going to have to be managed like Leadly King just to get 20 games out of him a season. Seb and Cats, both need opperations from injuries sustained in preseason or earlier. Jones got his injury in preseason, Kone is faking, O'shea popped his groin because he's an old useless **** who's being asked to do more than his body can withstand. Borini Stubbed his toe and Vito landed on his elbow, both accidents.

    We've only got 8 injuries and 3 of them is to players who should be squad fillers at the very most. The problem is the tiny squad. Short sanctioning clearouts without having the replacements lined up. The problem is the way Short runs the club imo not injuries. 8 injuries are **** all. Mags rarely had less than 12 injuries at one time for the entire of last season. 8 isn't bad, well, it is when the chairman flogs or releases half the playing squad and doesn't replace them.
     
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  8. E.T. Fairfax

    E.T. Fairfax Well-Known Member

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    Bit harsh <laugh>
     
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  9. Neil

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    I do think that Sam had the right idea with the cryotherapy treatment etc. They use the same technology at Leicester, and they had a remarkably low injury record last season. However, I agree that our current injuries can't be put down to having abandoned these methods. Do we know for a fact that Moyes isn't continuing using it, or is it just a conspiricy theory?
     
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  10. Brian Storm

    Brian Storm Well-Known Member

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    It's not, he should have been gone years ago. The fact he's still here shows the state of us. The oxygen thief needs putting down. <laugh>
     
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  11. Expat-Cat

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    Borini limped onto the bus after the Dortmund game, so this is a bit worrying if it hasn't healed in a while.

    Mind you, the threat of being locked into an icy blast or dumped in ice water and I think I would argue that I could "walk off' even a lost limb :emoticon-0105-wink:
     
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  12. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

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    It's possibly down to the Cryotherapy that you're getting so many injuries. I got moaned at for criticising it last time, so I won't go into detail.

    There's no substitute for natural recovery.
     
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  13. monty987

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    We have had this problem before, was it under Dicanio ?, I reckon these are not injuries just niggles, but nowadays players are mollycoddled. I turned my ankle right over one night on a footpath pothole, it was swollen up and purple the next day, and said to myself it will heal itself, and it did after about 10 days.
     
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  14. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

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    Glad to hear you recovered quickly mate. <ok>
     
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    Genuine or the Kone variety?
     
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  16. Commachio

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    Did you touch it with your finger ET?
     
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  17. Brian Storm

    Brian Storm Well-Known Member

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    The Di Canio Pre-season gave us the best injury free seasons we've had in my memory. No wonder folk think you're a mag. You don't know the club at all.
     
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  18. E.T. Fairfax

    E.T. Fairfax Well-Known Member

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    Those are the virtually the exact words that I said to a work colleague a couple of hours ago. All except the 'putting down' part........bit harsh! <laugh>
     
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  19. Brian Storm

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    <laugh> Send him out to pasture then shoot him <laugh>
     
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  20. E.T. Fairfax

    E.T. Fairfax Well-Known Member

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    I've nowt against the bloke. Fair play to him, through no fault of his own he is still getting a decent Premier League wage, where by rights he should be playing at best for a lower championship team by now.
     
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