We play Fulham on Tuesday who have been awful and are shipping goals for fun ,but we can`t seem to be able to beat them so i imagine we will lose that one and exit the FA Cup i just hope Fox the Murphys and Hoolahan get a run out maybe even Becchio. Then onto fortress Carrow Rd where we gain most of our points and turn over sides of equal levels? Not now i`m afraid and nobody is scared to visit us anymore, if we concede first which we usually do then we rarely have 2 goals in us meaning a draw or loss is likely setting up tight and defensive then bringing on attack minded players when the game is practically over. I have been really really patient with Hughton so far and waiting for things to click into place unfortunately we still can`t score his team selection is strange like playing Garrido on the left when you have wingers on the bench and match days are predictably a boring draw or the opposition scores a string of long range super goals. I am expecting to get relegated this season and so is Hughton but we have been hypnotized into a slow painful sleepy death, this feeling of impending doom will only be extracted with the appointment of a new manager and i would give N Adams the rest of the season to try and salvage what`s left and integrate some of our amazing youth players. In summery if we lose to Hull i want Hughton out . I am well ant truly off the fence . OTBC
As much as I would be happy if we got rid of Hootun right now, Neil Adams! Really? Did you learn nothing from Gunnies brief and painful foray into the city hot seat? Unfortunately unless we've identified someone else and can get em quick, we're stuck in this painful downward spiral, we can only hope it results in 17th or better, a hardy hand shake and thanks for your efforts now sling your hook! Bah!
Adams did a great job with the yoots last year and deserves a shot as caretaker manager, Hughton just does not inspire any confidence at all anymore a card board cut out would be more effective and passionate and it`s BEEEEHH not BAH that`s the noise sheep make G M. Also we have 51 points to play for so how is it too late to change manager during the transfer window?
It's too late to change manager until early February now because a new man won't have the time to assess his squad and make signings before the window shuts. We're in need of a CB and a CAM, and whilst Hughton might only sign one, or indeed neither, sacking Hughton means we definitely don't get either. For the sake of 3 league games and 2 cup ones, Hughton's got January for me so we improve the squad, and if performances aren't improved too then he goes early February for me. I can't see us losing every league game in that period under Hughton, nor can I see us winning the lot under another manager (if we had one in), so I'm gambling that the (worst case scenario) 3-4 points we're down in January under Hughton would be compensated for by the new manager and players during the rest of the season.
I'd rather any money available be spent on new players than on a managerial change that would cost millions.
I agree it's not to late, for me the sooner the better, but it's got to be someone who doesn't have, extremely limited experience and such a high likelihood of disaster like Adams. And her indoors is Welsh and reliably informs me sheep say "baa" not bah! (Well except when startled) As for Beeehh!, I shall highlight the following excerpt from wikiquotes "Baaah!" Melchett shared the trademark bellow "Baaah!" with Fry's earlier portrayal of Wellington, which would be delivered at random intervals for no apparent reason. Fry has put it down to smoker's asthma, but it occasionally serves as an indication of his insanity (such as when he says "You need only look at him to see he's as sane as I am. Baaah!"). It is sometimes speculated that the noise is a reference to the character's ancestor Lord Melchett's aforementioned dalliances with sheep. However, in Back and Forth, the Roman General Melchicus also says Baaah! (but in Latin!) long before Lord Melchett's time. The defence rests m'lud! Bah! I will concede I am slightly tight with the A's!
The other way of looking at it is, why let CH potentially buy a player or two who may not fit in with a new managers thinking, the player could be very quickly marginalized and the money wasted, that could be better spent on either A) a player that a new manager knows well and feels could have the team built around them, or B) in the summer. All that said, if the board were going to sack him I agree that it would have been done by now and he will probably see out at least this season now. I don't like it but that'll Probably be how it turns out. Bah!
Point taken General, in particular when it comes to the attacking players, but I think it's fairly hard to argue against a CB signing, which we'd struggle to make without a manager. If we could get a new manager in and allow him to sign someone he deems key before the end of the window then I'm all for it, but unless we've got someone ready to walk into Colney tomorrow morning, and they've watched the last dozen or so games to begin to know the squad, I don't think he'd have time to make the signing(s).
Even if we do beat Hull I'd be happy for him to get canned because it's not going to get any better how ever long we put up with him ! Nice bloke blah blah blah ! But completely tactically enept ! He just hasn't a clue as to how to pick a team to win a game, especially away, his main focus is to not loose, so when we go behind, ( usually ) he has no idea of how to arrest a bad situation ! Get rid now and give someone else the time to get us playing, I'd rather we went down fighting , than going out with a whimper like we are now ! I'm fed up with seeing him interviewed saying how "we need to get it sorted soon"! Really !!
Buy a quality central defender willing to come to us and someone who does that thing that gives us points, i think they call it scoring goals. I don`t think even someone who has never seen us play could pick a starting 11 any worse than Hughton.
Last season won 10, drew 14, lost 14. Then we get reinforcements - so far this season won 5, drawn 5, lost 11. With 17 games to go and with, let's say, 40 points for safety, we need 20 more points. The last 4 matches are home to Liverpool, home to Arsenal also away to Man Und and Chelsea. Can't see us getting anything with these games so 20 points needed from 13 matches. Where do I see these points coming from? Home wins against Hull, Stoke, Sunderland and WBA and possibly Cardiff away. At best, away draws to West Ham, Aston Villa, Swansea, Fulham. Possible 19 points. This leaves Newcastle at home, Man City at home (L), Spurs at home and Southampton away. Will we survive? Looks doubtful
We are 3 points away from 10th, yes I am disappointed the summer signings have not made us a stronger team but its never ever going to be any better for us in this league we will never be able to compete against the top 6 or 7 over a season so its an annual battle for survival up here! , managers like players will come and go but I do not see the point of removing a manager without a viable name who will fix the perceived faults. Hurts me to say it but Rodent would probably have kept us in the CCC ( we would have been bust the following year ) but kicking him out to put Gunny in was a disaster; I have yet to see a sensible name put forward as a replacement on the threads I have read and to change for the sake of change will turn us into another Fulham and guarantee our demise. At the moment I still see Fulham, Palace, WBA , Cardiff, Wet Sham and Sunderland being worse than us, not time to do something that is not fully considered, I have great faith that DM will have it all under control whatever happens
Easier said than done SN All of the clubs currently in a similar situation will be thinking and doing the same thing and there's only so much quality available! Who in their right minds would want to come into a club that will be fighting for survival for the rest of the season when they would be at a club that is in a more comfortable position! January is the worst possible time to recruit "Quality" players as they simply arent available!
As a nice family club, I'm sure you'll bed obliging if a make a polite request? Would you mind awfully saving any resurgence until after we've played you? Cheers.
There is also the issue of the damage he could cause in the window by selling Hoolahan and/or Fox. Before people accuse me of turning these players into world beaters, I'm not. But they are both in different ways a type of player that we otherwise don't have. A new manager who comes in may want a completely new style which involves the things they can do. If they've been offloaded, it's an option that won't be available to him.
We should have just stumped up the extra 500k birmingham wanted in january last year for curtis davies, instead of trying to offload barney. We've ended up selling him for about that but missed out on Davies who is looking like a rock and marshalling his defence at hull, who's home defensive record is obscene.
Personally I don't have a problem with him selling those players so long as they're replaced with players who offer us a different option to what we currently have. If he sells the pair of them and brings in two hard-tackling defensive midfielders then I'll be mighty frustrated, but if it's two more rounded players, one of which can play as a deep-lying playmaker and the other as a more attacking creative influence, then that's fine by me, his judgement on signings is one of the few things I do still trust. Selling them both and bringing nobody in would be near-suicidal as we're short on depth as it is, so I don't believe any manager would do that. Any new manager coming in has to make the most of the squad available to him, and a manager who won't join us because we no longer have David Fox is hardly going to get the most out of the rest of our squad!
