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If it wasnt for the Russians

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by eddieveeee, Dec 9, 2011.

  1. eddieveeee

    eddieveeee New Member

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    you lot would all be speaking German

    Trotskys Red Army

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  2. alwaysright

    alwaysright @ Very Angry Camel

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    Yes, I actually prefer to talk bollocks - no need to thank me.
     
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  3. Otto Flayshow

    Otto Flayshow Well-Known Member

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    Where were they in the 5th century when the Angles and Saxons invaded from Germany and Denmark, filling the void left by the collapse of the Roman Empire in the West?
     
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  4. eddieveeee

    eddieveeee New Member

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    I would guess that they were somewhere in Russia.
     
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  5. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad

    Mahmoud Ahmadinejad Well-Known Member

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    It was the Russians who let the Germans run rampant in the first place with the Non-Aggression Pact and supplying them with the materials needed to run the war machine
     
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  6. DevAdvocate

    DevAdvocate Gigging bassist

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    Don't confuse eddie by telling him the truth about what the Russians did. They sat on their ****ing hands for 2 long years believing that Hitler would leave them alone.

    Stalin was responsible for more deaths than Hitler and the Russian troops who entered Poland near the end of the war were as bad as the SS for depravity, mass rapes and mass murders being the order of the day.

    Ask anyone of Polish extraction if the Russians saved anyone but themselves.
     
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  7. DevAdvocate

    DevAdvocate Gigging bassist

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    After the Second World War, the International Military Tribunal was established in Nuremberg to try the leaders of Nazi Germany for crimes against peace, war crimes, and crimes against humanity. Crimes against peace involved initiating a war of aggression. War crimes involved: murder, ill-treatment, or deportation either of civilians or prisoners of war. Crimes against humanity involved: murder, extermination, enslavement, deportation and other inhumane acts committed against any civilians before or during war, and also persecution on political, racial or religious grounds. These acts, the charter of the Tribunal stated, were crimes "... whether or not in violation of the domestic law of the country where perpetrated". The Nazis were also guilty of the ultimate crime - the crime of genocide.
    After a thorough investigation, most of the defendants were convicted by the Tribunal of one or more of these horrific crimes and duly punished.
    In a bizarre twist of fate, the Soviets, who were also guilty of all these crimes and therefore should have been in the dock alongside the Nazis, sat in righteous judgement upon them.
    In regard to Poland alone, the list of Soviet crimes against peace, war crimes and crimes against humanity during the Second World War is very long indeed. It includes:
    - the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact and its secret Protocol for the partition of Poland
    - the invasion and occupation in September 1939 of Eastern Poland, an area containing eight out of sixteen Poland's prewar provinces and representing 52 percent of Polish soil with over 13 million people
    - the consequent breaking of two bilateral treaties with Poland, namely - the 1921 Treaty of Riga and the 1932 Polish-Soviet Non-Aggression Pact, renewed in 1934 for an additional ten years; moreover, as a member [since 1934] of the League of Nations, the Soviet Union violated at least three multilateral pacts as well
    - the gratuitous handing over of Wilno and the Wilno region to Lithuania in exchange for allowing the Soviets to have military bases in that country
    - the rigged plebiscites on the basis of which the occupied Polish territories were incorporated into the Belorussian SSR and the Ukrainian SSR
    - the wholesale looting of Polish raw materials, agricultural produce and both movable and immovable goods to Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union
    - the wrecking of the Polish economy and the banking system
    - the subversion of the Polish educational system, the arts, and the free press
    - the trampling underfoot of human rights, including the freedoms of free speech, assembly and worship
    - the confiscation of all Polish private and state landed property
    - the exorbitant taxation without representation
    - the four massive and other, less-known smaller deportations of entire Polish families to the gulag
    - the massive arrests of so-called counterrevolutionaries and anti-Soviet elements
    - the internment of Polish POWs in forced-labour camps in occupied Eastern Poland and the USSR
    - the 1940 cold-blooded execution and burial in ground pits in Katyn, Mednoye and Kharkov of 21 857 Polish prisoners [this exact number of those murdered comes from a 1959 KGB memorandum from Aleksandr Shelepin to Nikita Khruschev and represents the total number of executions during the April-May 1940 action, including 7300 persons murdered in Belorussia and Ukraine]. The relatives of the victims in the Soviet-occupied part of Poland were subjected to one of the most severe repressions - deportation to the gulag. In postwar Poland, they were not allowed to speak of the manner in which their loved ones died, and had to mourn them in complete silence
    - the ground pits, filled with Polish corpses, recently-discovered near Tavda and Tomsk, east of the Ural Mountains
    - the forced 'death marches' to the interior of the Soviet Union following the June 1941 Nazi invasion
    - the massive, cold-blooded executions of thousands of prisoners in occupied Eastern Poland in the first days of that invasion
    - the establishment of a communist party in Nazi-occupied Poland in early 1942 with orders to destabilize the Polish Underground by denouncing its members to the Gestapo
    - the Moscow 1943 order to combat the Polish Underground with "every possible means"
    - the establishment in 1943 of the Moscow-based Union of Polish Patriots to take over the Polish government after the war
    - the deliberate withholding of material and military assistance to the defenders of Warsaw during the 1944 uprising
    - Stalin's 1944 order to liquidate the members of all Polish Underground forces, which resulted in the execution of thousands of Polish soldiers and the arrest and deportation of tens of thousands to the interior of the Soviet Union
    - the luring of sixteen Polish leaders to Moscow in March, 1945 and their show trial
    These, and similar Soviet actions cost the lives of hundreds of thousands of Polish citizens throughout the war and caused indescribable pain and sufferings to millions more

    http://www.electronicmuseum.ca/Poland-WW2/soviet_crimes/soviet_crimes_eng.html
     
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  8. GroveRanger

    GroveRanger Well-Known Member

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    Rah-Rah-Rasputeeeeeeen, lover of the Russian Queen!!!!!!!!!

    Oh Those Russians!
     
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  9. AdamBanana20

    AdamBanana20 New Member

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    USA would have saved us anyway.
     
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  10. SUPERNORWICH 23

    SUPERNORWICH 23 SUPERNORWICH

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    I thought you had a better forum to post on?
     
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  11. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad

    Mahmoud Ahmadinejad Well-Known Member

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    What about 9/11?
     
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  12. eddieveeee

    eddieveeee New Member

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    It was actually the Americans who funded the Nazis, without having the Russians to deal with, Hitler would have taken Britain in 5 minutes.

    Dev and his old black and white false history books, guys been fed lies all his life.
     
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  13. AdamBanana20

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    How's your mum feeling?Did she recover from last night?
     
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  14. Deleted 1

    Deleted 1 Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Eddie -if your mum and dad hadn't been smack addicts then you might not have turned out the way you have. All ifs and ands I'm afraid.
     
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  15. monacoger

    monacoger POTY 2021

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    Say what you want about the Russians, their women are ****ing beautiful.
     
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  16. gas

    gas ACCOUNT DELETED Forum Moderator

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    I think even for the mighty army at his disposal it would have taken a little longer than 5 minutes<ok>

    For starters, "we will fight them on the beaches" would have delayed them by at least half hour.
     
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  17. eddieveeee

    eddieveeee New Member

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    <laugh>
     
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  18. AdamBanana20

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    That's why why we wipped them in the air.
     
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  19. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad

    Mahmoud Ahmadinejad Well-Known Member

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    I think the lack of war and troop ships would have delayed them even longer
     
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  20. DevAdvocate

    DevAdvocate Gigging bassist

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    So where did you read that the Russians saved us?

    You are a stupid wee boy Desmond, stick to the gee gees and the puggies, that's your field of expertise son.
     
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