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  1. Red Robin

    Red Robin Well-Known Member

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    Tonight We played s side that had the full monty.

    Skill,strength,power,know how,Tenacity.

    We had one player that lived with them on the pitch and that was our loan signing Tomlin,the rest would not get into Brightons first team.

    I thought LJ started with the wrong side at 7:45pm.
    No way would i have started vyner against the quality Brighton had,i said after the MK showing a better player would do him,three goals tonight were down to him.His confidence was shattered tonight poor kid.
    However it tells me he don't rate Little as he played Vyner instead.
    The only positive was he subbed the right players,I'm glad Tomlin was not taken off as he was the player that looked good enough.

    LJ the honeymoon is over,you need two strikers,another quality midfield player.another quality central defender just to start with.

    Another men against boys performance tonight.
     
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  2. Cliftonville

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    two strikers,another quality midfield player.another quality central defender,

    And Shes off again.
     
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  3. Mind the gap!

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    Little is obviously still injured, he's not much better than vyner so I wouldn't risk an injury by playing him.

    Their Bruno went to the same Brighton defending school as El Abd

    A new manager doesn't suddenly Magic up a few new players.

    Baker and ayling's absence is a concern long term

    Saw that baker had his foot/lower leg in a brace
     
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  4. banksyisourhero

    banksyisourhero Well-Known Member

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    Johnson was wong to start Vyner tonight.. its all very well bringing kids through and he did well against a poor MK Dons side on Saturday but made some very bad mistakes in the second half whilst in possession that could have cost us, tonight against better quality it did!

    He should have put him back on the bench, said, you did really well kid and left him to reflect on it and bask in it with some memories, he played well first half and would have been better off left with that as a memory. I read he came off with tears in his eyes tonight, thats a great shame!

    Thats the sign of an inexperienced manager for me. You need to step up LJ, I feel you have just tried for brownie points amongst the faithfu by bringing through academy kids and that may have led to long term damage to a young kid starting out on his career, There is a time and place and common sense tells you. not tonight!
     
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  5. invermeremike

    invermeremike Well-Known Member

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    Well, the new manager syndrome left us far behind tonight and reality took a chunk out of the team. We've known for some time that new recruits are needed if we want to get back on track and start consolidating our survival rebuild. The next 4 matches will go a long way towards sealing our fate and perhaps we needed a kick in the backside to make us realise exactly how poor we are when you compare us against last night's opposition. At least being 8 points above the relegation zone is a comfort but that can quickly evaporate should we not fare well in those games so it will be vital to garner some points from difficult fixtures, and having to hope that the others don't do well is not the answer.
     
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  6. RedorDead

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    And it starts again <doh>

    My honest opinion Little was ****ed and possibly played on the bench as a emergency sub and unfortunately it was needed. When he came on there was no runs down the wing looked like he was restricted.
    In fairness if Vyner cost us the game by the same mistakes on Saturday gone I would of been pissed off. A mark of a good player is how they respond and I think he will be ok LJ knows about crowd on your mark fans so he's in the best team to taught how to deal with it.
    Brighton was good and they attacked with pace on the break, they had an excellent player in Knockheart (how ever you spell it) who was quick and decisive . Baldocks goal was really down to finishing and showed even though he has not got the goals for Brighton still has the confidence to shoot on sight. Third was against the run of play yet again, however the forth was them taken the piss the players did not want to play, they wanted off the pitch forget the game and move on and it showed.
    I done last night what I've never done in years and left at 83 minutes and that was mainly so I did not have to sit in the carpark for an hour reflecting so missed the penalty, but heard it on the radio. I was disappointed but don't know if true but the commentator said Agard and Tomlin was really challenging each other for the ball to take it. I would say though Keiran that the last person to take a scoring penalty should carry on till they miss. It was a nothing game at that point but still missing the target was poor.

    If you thought Tomlin was our best performer RR you are really daft as to me he kept wanting a foul. Smith done nothing wrong and you say Tomlin was only one with credit??

    Did not understand the boing of Baldock, read on OTIB that he made a ****er sign on scoring but to me it looked like he was signalling to his team mates not too much celebration. And I did watch it closely as he came towards the corner of Atyeo and just down below me in the Dolman so I did have a good view.
    As far as I remember he did not push a transfer which we got more than we paid for him. His first season scores 12 in an injury hit relegation season the season after 26 I think and he's booed from the off? And to think when he went off he clapped our fans before aiming anything towards the Brighton fans. He has now alligence to us and only played 2 seasons but I thought the respect in not celebrating and clapping he would of probably been happier scoring an own goal even though we booed.
     
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  7. Redprintt

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    They were far better than us last night and we need to step up Saturday.
    It was my first game for a few weeks and first look at the new players.
    Tomlin was class 1st half centrally but irrelevant 2nd when moved left side.
    Goldbourne (spelling?) was good all night.
    Pearce was ordinary, but I have learned not to judge these 3 on 1 game(Elliot).
    Vyner is what he is, young and will learn - I agree with Banksy about his selection.

    I'll have a look later at 2 of the goals.
    I don't like the way O'Donnell rants at defenders when they score a goal.
    Sometimes, I said sometimes, it's done to hide their own error/involvement.
     
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    It's telling that we've won 3 out of the last 4 games but have ended that period with a -1 goal difference.

    LJ needs to keep us up and then he, Ashton, Lansdown and the rest of the clowns in the circus need to identify some quality players and bring them in as soon as this season is over otherwise it'll be the same all over again next time.
     
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  9. banksyisourhero

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    Nah he was right .. no desire to stop the shot getting away. we were sloppy last night and we drop too deep as a unit when they have the ball. this leaves acres for the opposition to run in to and go straight at us.
     
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    Baldock was a credit did not want to create after scoring very low key after the goal.

    Sorry Rod, Tomlin was our best player by a country mile unless it went through him nothing happened.
     
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    We were poor last night- It was a harsh education for Vyner and I hope he doesn't suffer for it. It was purely a case of showing that he's not ready yet and that there is a big step up from where he has come-
    Midfield seemed lost tonight though- Interesting to see that Brighton had 3 shots on target and scored 4- I guess the og doesn't count- Our shots on target by comparison were either weak efforts or two decent saves-
    Just to cap it all, Agard should be disciplined over the pen- Tomlin's reaction and face when he missed it was a picture
     
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  12. Mind the gap!

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    Little is clearly still injured.

    Thought the booing of Baldock was moronic.
     
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    LJ made the right decision - the choice was pick a player not 100% fit (Little) or a young lad who did quite well on his debut at MK.
    Young Zak will learn alot from last night
     
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    Just seen Brighton's 1st goal on YouTube.
    Did O'Donnell make their scorer's mind up, was his positioning spot on ?
    Perhaps it was ok, I might be over critical (as if) because he rants at everyone else.

    I note, that Gary said after, sorry Lee, 'they didn't adhere to my tactics'.
     
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    No. He kept the goal small v an opponent allowed to walk it almost in.

    It was poor team play.

    Vyner lost possession.

    Pearce was slow and laboured and did nothing to close down.

    Aden Flint should have gone narrow instead of opening up.

    Rubbish pub team defending.
     
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    'Rubbish pub team defending' <laugh>
     
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  17. banksyisourhero

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    If he was.. why was he on the bench? .. Why was he brought on when Vyner was having a mare?

    Little should have started even if he was not totally fit and if he does break down you have a replacement for him, that means Vyner is not affected by the mental stress of starting the game too.. common sense.

    Vyner should have been introduced to the side in short spells at the end of games when the score allows. he was thrown to the Wolves last night and it may have badly affected his confidence long term.

    Poor decision!
     
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    Mind the gap! Well-Known Member

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    If Little had started then he'd of been injured or so unmobile later on that he'd have been a sitting duck. He is on the bench in case needed but it was obvious from the way he was running that something isn't right
     
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  19. invermeremike

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    Not too many happy campers on board the 606 train today and I can understand why. The proof of the pudding will be whether we have any brains left at Ashton Gate who can see through the mists of uncertainty to see and understand that we don't come even close to having a squad capable of competing at this level. Normally clubs would do something about it after analysing their needs in conjunction with their manager and staff and then go out and find the missing link.

    Bristol city's problem here is that I'm not quite sure they want to understand the issues, and if they do they don't seem to care to fix them anytime soon. Many boats have been missed by our management and here we are again with the gloss of our new manager well rubbed off last night. I have this fear that we won't get it right with whatever time is left in the loan window, but rather it will be left in the hands of lady luck and that is a tragic way to run a football club. SAD.
     
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  20. gdknac

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    Right back clearly a problem short term
     
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