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Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Steven Royston O'Neill, Mar 18, 2012.

  1. Steven Royston O'Neill

    Steven Royston O'Neill Well-Known Member

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    If we get to the cup final and lose do we get to Europe and if so in what competition.

    If we win is it the same one.

    If Newcastle finish 6th do they go.

    Could we meet in Europe.


    Never been bothered before because we never got near.
     
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  2. fulwell end bogs

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    May depend on Chelsea, whether they win the champions league and/or finish in the champions league places in the league !.

    All very confusing !
     
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  3. murray out

    murray out Well-Known Member

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    if we get to the cup final and lose to spurs or chelsea we'll be in europe and the mags would miss out. If we get to the final and lose to bolton then we and the mags would both miss out. the mags need to finish 5th to get into europe or hope liverpool play either spurs or chelsea in the final
    this is my theory and i'm 99.9% sure i'm right
     
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  4. Steven Royston O'Neill

    Steven Royston O'Neill Well-Known Member

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    I understood, keep out of bottom 3, that was easy
     
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    QWOP Well-Known Member

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    Spot on. Also, why are posts 5 minutes ahead of the actual time? Am I in some time warp?
     
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  6. fulwell end bogs

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    Too confusing to argue with you...mines easier to follow !!! ha ha

     
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  7. connor wigham

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    the rule is the winner of both cups (fa and league) gets into europa league as do the top 4 into the champions league

    However if the winners of a cup are in the top already they can win again so it goes to the loser of the cup final

    But they might also be in europe so it then doesnt go to the semi finalists it goes to the league place

    So IF we made it to the final with Chelsea or Totty (in champions league already) we are in the europa league

    if we dont make it to the final and Liverpool (won the league cup so are in the europa already) are the europa place goes to the league place whoch is newcastle
     
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  8. Makemstine Roger

    Makemstine Roger Well-Known Member

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    they wont beat barca
     
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  9. Steven Royston O'Neill

    Steven Royston O'Neill Well-Known Member

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    I quite fancied a Tyne/Wear European derby game
     
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  10. fulwell end bogs

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    They might not have to...
     
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    And Barca have dropped plenty of points in the league this season, they could have a bad game somewhere.
     
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  12. Steven Royston O'Neill

    Steven Royston O'Neill Well-Known Member

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    Life was so much simpler at Roker Park in black and white days
     
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  13. fulwell end bogs

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    Won't disagree with you there Syd

    We were **** most of the time so this issue never came up !
     
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  14. fulwell end bogs

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    Think i may have brain freeze...
     
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  15. Steven Royston O'Neill

    Steven Royston O'Neill Well-Known Member

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    Europe, bloody Bolton was an adventure in those days
     
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  16. Makemstine Roger

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    only if we book the same hotel
     
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  17. fulwell end bogs

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    Ha Ha i was thinking more like Hull !
     
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  18. Lever Malone

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    Black and white!!! Black and white!! Syd go and wash your mouth out with carbolic.
     
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  19. David Moyes' Stupid Face

    David Moyes' Stupid Face Well-Known Member

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    Essentially, if we get through to the semis...

    If we beat liverpool we are in europe next season, if we lose then newcastle get europe next season.

    That would be such a huge game for us.
     
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  20. The Mackem of Oz

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    Right...so we beat Everton we play Liverpool.

    It would look like this

    Chelsea (Champ league/Europa) vs Spurs (Champ league/Europa)
    Liverpool (Europa) vs Sunderland (nothing)

    WE have to beat Liverpool. We beat Liverpool then we will deffo be in Europe.
    If Liverpool finish 5th they will go into Europa and so will Cardiff. So that would be 7th not getting Europa.
    If we win or finish runners up in the FA cup we get Europa, so that means 6th wouldn't get it.

    So for Newcastle not to get in Europe, we need Liverpool to finish 5th, and us to finish runner up or win the FA Cup.

    Make sense??
     
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