Skrtel is the latest player to be linked with a move away. Agger prior to that, Reina is strangely quiet. We've all read about Carroll but that worries me less....I am also quite concerned that the hierarchy get fed up of the Suarez issue and force BR to sell him......BR is clearly one to appreciate him but it may be out of his hands - especially with Slur Alex chipping in every 2 minutes......although no reference to 'choc ices' in his recent dig...... Got to say that I am concerned about the heart of our defence being ripped out; Losing 2 out of 3 of those players would be a disaster in a rebuilding year imo, losing one of them would be hard enough!
I have a few concerns to. My main concern is Reina, but thats because he hasnt been his usual self on the pitch for a long time. He looks distracted. Agger and Skrtel are a slight concern but I do not think the will go. If we can get a big signing or two we could give those players more faith in us moving forward.
I'm actually less worried about this issue this summer but without further squad investment and if we start the season poorly it will become a serious issue in the next two transfer windows.
I think when we slipped front 2nd to 7th in the league it showed how quickly players loose faith. We had a great team that got us to 2nd in the league. Alonso and Arebeloa left for there own reason. The next season we finished 7th. Riera, Benayoun and Mascerano left. Torres soon followed.
I believe Torres and Mascherano would have stayed a little longer had Rafa still been in charge. Players like Reina, Torres, Mascherano, Agger and Skrtel had faith in Rafa and they all fully respect him as a coach. The only players that didn't believe were Carragher and Gerrard and I read that they were keen for Roy to come in. Appointing Roy Hodgson was the worst decision the club have made and it sparked our descent in the football league. Now, we are targetting mid-table players like Dempsey and Allen, and already have the likes of Carroll, Downing, Adam on our books.
Well, the only main players we've lost due to league positions are Masch and Torres. Good players but we've finally replaced them (Suarez, Lucas, Borini). If a player like Reina was to leave, we would replace them. There would be money and intense pressure on FSG to buy top dollar (like there was when Torres left and we immediately looked to plough money back in on a striker).
It also didn't help that Kenny spunked the money up the wall with average, overpriced British players.
We could always tell them this http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896...ity-target-cavani-will-rot-on-the-bench-if-he
I wrote a piece earlier i the year stating we needed to buy 6 players. we've not gotten one and got rid of two... look i expressed a view that to improve you can't just hold station and was told i was mad. players naturally leave so you've got to bring in the talent faster than it goes.... what happens is people start looking after no1.. and skertl seems to be at that. whether its to get more money orto engineer a move who can tell. Reina's on his hols so what can he ay? quiet is fine. the most important point is these guys were no-ones before we signed them, and in 10 years or maybe only 5 they'll be gone as retirees maybe anyway. Its natural to have player turnover. we will rpelace everyone the only point that's valid is who we replace them with.
Did he? The fact that they did not perform too well last season is no indicator as to what their level of performance will be this season.
You can say that, but Carroll will never be worth half of £35M and Downing will never be worth the £16-20M we paid.
I wrote a piece earlier i the year stating we needed to buy 6 players. we've not gotten one and got rid of two... look i expressed a view that to improve you can't just hold station and was told i was mad. players naturally leave so you've got to bring in the talent faster than it goes.... what happens is people start looking after no1.. and skertl seems to be at that. whether its to get more money orto engineer a move who can tell. Reina's on his hols so what can he ay? quiet is fine. the most important point is these guys were no-ones before we signed them, and in 10 years or maybe only 5 they'll be gone as retirees maybe anyway. Its natural to have player turnover. we will rpelace everyone the only point that's valid is who we replace them with.
True - I'm just in a bit of a mood today! But for the money we spent on those players, I'm sure we could have got better quality.
In total agreement with you, I love Kenny and what he has done for us but he bought so badly for us, if BR had that kind of money (£100m to spend, regardless of net) I think we would become a real force. I think DC was down to a lot of it though, Carroll and Downing at half the price would have been good business so I think the real issue was that we overpaid so massively as the players are not terrible but they are made to look like terrible in relation to what we spent on them. It's all relative.
It's a shame because Kenny did such a great job in his first 6 months - working with players like Maxi, Kuyt, Suarez and he was tactically spot on (I remember Chelsea away as an example). But then he bought badly and then tried to force them to fit in and it didn't work out. LFC have made poor choices over the past few seasons and we're still paying the price.
The owners had no choice to appoint Kenny permanently due to the huge backlash they'd have received from Liverpool 'fans' who can't concede that he isn't the second coming.
I agree. Hindsight is a wonderful thing but had Kenny not secured another season, the fans would have been on the owners back.
Whilst I agree with you to a certain extent you have to remember that it's highly unlikely Kenny set the transfer fees. Bad buys or did we just pay over the odds? For me they aren't bad players but we just wasted a whole load of cash on them and I find it hard to believe that whilst Kenny migh have helpded identify the targets I very much doubt he would have kicked up a fuss if DC had come back to him and said we can't afford them because they are asking silly money. Also bear in mind that we did get Bellers for free, paid what was market value for ChAds and got Enrique on the cheap Ultimately I agree with Mitos overall argument on this one. We have brought in one desperately needed sstriker but now we have to work to replace Kuyt and Maxi and if AC is moved on we will need at least one more forward (preferablly two) and we need to buy well.
well I think at times last year (about 20mins in every match) we were very good. i still don't understand how we were so sloppy in fornt of goal or how we couldn't put in a 90min shift.... I for one will be looking at steve clarke in his new job to see if he had anything to do with the fitness things. We bought badly? we'll i wans't up for adam nor carroll but downings been a huge let down and henderson will be a star in the future. suarez is great but troubled and bellamy is old... enrique got zero rest and faded badly but is still top class.... all in all i can't blame signings alone for our year... i think we should have never appointed kenny if we were not willing to give him 3 year. having two finals and one cup i think still if three years were given we'd be in the CL. Now its rodgers turn and the main question has to be will he get time either?
I totally disagree. They are the owners they decide who they put the contract in front of. Had they appointed someone else who had done a good job last season do you really think there would have been much pressure put on the owners. Had BR come in last season and taken us to two cup finals, qualified for Europe but finished 8th most Reds I know would have said exactly the same as they said for Kenny. League position not good enough but ****in loved the 3 trips to Wembley. Simple question for you...if we finish 6th this year but win no cups will that be an improvement on last season? I back BR 100% despite not agreeing with Kennys sacking but at the moment I'm not expecting him to improve us much at all during his first season.
