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Huw confirms SCFC looking into stadium expansion

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  1. Scottswan

    Scottswan Active Member

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    http://www.thisissouthwales.co.uk/story-13313001-detail/story.html

    Great news that they're looking at doing it now, obviously it's all dependent on how this season goes, but it's nice to know the board are still covering all angles.

    They're talking about building behind the two ends and the East Stand, so I assume they mean building a "base" then adding a second tier? Or do you think it would just be an extension on what we already have, taking the sections further back, and higher?
     
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    how long would the upgrade take?
     
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  3. Scottswan

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    I assume it would be done inbetween seasons. Maybe the capacity would be temporarily smaller, for example if they started at the end of a season so it would be complete for the start of a new one, then the capacity would probably be brought down slightly due to building work...
     
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    if safe i would be starting a few games before the end of the season to make sure it was ready
     
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    Scott I am no structural engineer but if they build a new base behind these stands that should allow a higher stand but going back further. As it says similar scheme to Old Trafford but on a smaller scale. I gues disruption would be minimal if you arent pulling down existing stands.
     
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    Sorry, to be the pessimist amongst us. Can never see this happening. Maybe i am wrong. But this will obviously depend on us staying up. Then the work would need to be done between seasons. Cant see this being able to be completed in 10 to 12 weeks. That would mean a reduction in capacity short term and lots of existing season ticket holders with out a seat. Just one other things would the desire for tickets be as high if we maintained our position in the prem or would the pull of these clubs wane season on season. I hope i am wrong on all counts. But have my doubts.
     
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    trundles left foot Well-Known Member

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    Sorry guys, dont think i would be to happy not to be able to purchase my seat due to rebuilding having been there since the Liberty opened. i know that is a little short sighted. But if they offered me an alternative at the same price with the chance to have my seat back on completion. I dont suppose i could moan much. But this is the Swans guys. They still havent sort out the ticket sales.
     
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  8. DragonPhilljack

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    It's all about load bearing, and if the existing foundations aren't adequate, then building additional footings behind to take the increase is common sense, as well as less disruption to the existing structure, and I agree with Musty that I'm sure preparation works will start before the end of this season, so that it is completed in time for next season, assuming we stay up, which I'm sure the club are pulling all the stops out for, good news indeed this, and the figures Huw Jenkins has mentioned are what we were guesstimating in previous articles, before the season started. Let's hope all goes to plan, because this extra revenue is needed, as we are such a small club, but on the plus side also, it will put a nail in the coffin of the Bluetits who love to go on about their bigger attendances, they have over us, hell it would be good to shut them up on that one!!.........................
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    "I look back to the Wembley game when we had 40,000 people there and I have to admit I never thought we'd do that." He's dreaming £££££££ signs every night of the week!!..............
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  9. ShanghaiSwan

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    If they start before the season ends I don't see how it would lower existing capacity. Most of the initial work would be laying the base. That wouldn't affect the current seating at all. There is no way they can or will take seating from people who have already paid for their seats. And it may not all happen in one go. They may do one stand each season.

    But I think if the Swans are hovering around the relegation zone every season then demand for tickets will drop.

    Will be quite a few years before it brings in extra money, as it will take quite a time to pay back the money spent on building.
     
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  10. Shaper

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    My personal feelings are that if we come straight back down and lose some of the newer fan-base, there may be quite a few empty spaces in subsequent seasons that we're trying to regain our Premiership status.

    I'm not trying to be a killjoy, but the reality is that this could happen. I think that if we stayed up, maybe start in the off-season or even wait until next year.
     
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  11. swanseaandproud

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    Nothing can happen without the agreement of the council and they have still not agreed on the site of the new training ground.....not going to happen for a good few years yet if ever, so dont wory about it.....<ok>
     
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  12. Jager

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    Can't see that Dai, you strike while the iron is hot, this will take two or maybe three phases though, either the east stand extension will start in about February or March next year which will be done in about 6 months, or the south or/and north extension will be done.

    With the rest being built the following year/s, there will be no massive problem with the planning as it will not have an impact adjacent housing as there are none, the problem is with parking and the council already has plans to work on this , with increased public transport for the upturn of fan numbers
     
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  13. swanseaandproud

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    strike when the irons hot jager...what a bit like the academy like,...<laugh>...it wont happen...<ok>
     
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  14. Jager

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    The academy has had many issues not just on the swans side dai, there have been many legal hurdles with the site and the fact we are basically evicting the current tenants from there, also there was the issue with the funds for doing this which until we were promoted were in a limited supply.
     
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    Will the council start charging more rent if you get a bigger ground? <whistle>

    I see there is £12m available for stadium expansion that wasn't available for players. Staying in the prem will generate more revenue than extra seats in the championship. A couple of premiership experienced players would be of more value than a new stand.

    Would be good for you if you got both though.
     
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  16. Jager

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    If we stay up it will be worth an additional £50m to the club, but we still won't bust our wage structure to gamble on staying up, we won't do a hull
     
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  17. swanseaandproud

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    there is masses and masses of red tape to go through before we can do anything,,,one being it is not our stadium.<laugh> .hot air by huw that we have heard many times before..it will take years and years before all parties agree....it wont happen...
     
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  18. Jager

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    It doesn't need to be our building to do renovations to it, ask any large retailer or bank, they don't own the buildings they occupy, they rent them as its more tax efficient, and all parties do agree Dai, that is why the management company agree to this
     
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  19. swanseaandproud

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    Are you serious jager..<laugh> dont be daft.....My son dont own his council house but i think you can bet your bottom dollar he would need permition to build an extension. <laugh> your being silly now jager there are many obstacles to overcome that will take years to sort out....
     
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  20. Jager

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    yes Dai very serious, if its good enough for one the largest banks in the world, its good enough for one of the smallest clubs in the premier league!

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8359775.stm

    Your problem is that you think that all these businesses actually own all the buildings they occupy, they don't!

    http://www.retail-week.com/bq-prope...ndlords-for-being-unrealistic/1792861.article


     
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