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Hull Daily Mail - Name-change Poll Results

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  1. Dr.Stanley O'Google, HCFC

    Dr.Stanley O'Google, HCFC Well-Known Member

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    Hull City poll results: 3,450 fans give their verdict on controversial Hull Tigers rebrand

    THE FANS have spoken and by a majority of 2-1 they have given an impassioned plea to Hull City owner Assem Allam to keep the club’s historic name.

    In a poll of 3,450 fans by the Hull Daily Mail, 2,370 (68.7%) said they wanted the club to retain its full name of ‘Hull City AFC’ – which has stood with the club since 1904 – or simply ‘Hull City’.

    A significantly smaller 604 were in favour of renaming the club ‘Hull City Tigers’ or ‘Hull Tigers’, Mr Allam’s preferred choice. A sizeable minority of 476 said they didn’t care what the club is called.

    But in its simplest form, the results show a majority of fans polled oppose Mr Allam’s plan. In total 59.7 per cent wanted the name Hull City AFC, with another 9 per cent opting for Hull City.

    Fans who preferred Hull Tigers, Hull City Tigers or who “didn’t care” accounted for 31.3 per cent.

    The results show some weakening in the opposition since Mr Allam’s plans were first revealed by the Mail in August. Then, in another Mail poll, 77.7 per cent, voted for Hull City AFC to remain.

    But the new results continue to undermine Mr Allam’s insistence that only a minority of fans oppose his controversial plans.

    Our poll also gives an indication of how much opposition Mr Allam can expect if he presses ahead with the rebrand. It suggests a significant number of fans could boycott games, cancel season tickets, stop buying club merchandise and hold protests inside and outside the KC stadium on match days.

    Although 61.5 per cent of fans said they would continue to attend “Hull Tigers” games, 24.7 per cent said they would not. A further 13.8 per cent are undecided. A sizeable 61.5 per cent of all those who voted said they would not buy ‘Hull Tigers’ branded merchandise. And 22.5 per cent indicated that they may not renew their season ticket for the club.

    Those statistics will be troubling for City as any commercial loss will be keenly felt by the club. It also appears to call into question the immediate economic benefit of a rebrand which Mr Allam has been keen to suggest, although there is still a suggestion the Tigers branding could itself be linked to a key sponsorship deal.

    Fans opposed to the name change also indicate that they will continue with protests, despite appeals by manager Steve Bruce not to bring the dispute into the ground during games. In total, 40.7 per cent of those polled said they would protest inside or outside the ground, while 22.8 per cent said they would limit protests to outside. A further 31 per cent said they would not conduct any protests.

    In the light of Mr Allam’s comments that he would consider leaving the club if his renaming plans were opposed, a significant number of fans did appear to have concerns about the longer-term impact on the club.

    Asked if fans would drop opposition if there was a threat to future investment, 32.6 per cent said they would with a further 10.9 per cent saying they would consider it.

    Another 7.1 per cent were undecided. A slight minority, 49.4 per cent, said their opposition would continue even if it threatened future investment.

    Hull City have declined to make further comment on the name change but in an interview with the Hull Daily Mail last month, Mr Allam insisted he was acting in the club's best interests.


    http://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Hull...fans-verdict/story-20328695-detail/story.html
     
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  2. Happy Tiger

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    So the HDM poll attracts more people to a poll than CTWD has had members signed up (1200 I believe was mentioned vs a whopping 3450 that responded to that poll).

    40% of people who responded to that poll do not care/don't mind about the name.

    The number against the name change represents basically, twice the number of CTWD paid up members. You need to look at your local advertising fellas, clearly not reaching your potential membership.

    25% said they would't go to any more games. lol plastics. or. Suuuuure you won't go anymore.

    3.5k people read the HDM online, although clearly, the majority of fans do not read it online.

    Heh playing with statistics from such hugely unrepresentative polls and making bold statements on them is funny. Everyone have a go! Even the haters, lets see who can come up with the funniest conclusion from this poll!
     
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  3. Party Hull!

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    The people who "don't care" are scum beyond belief.
     
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  4. Beverley_Tiger_998

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    I'm surprised you haven't concluded the earth is flat from this poll and declared it a written fact.
     
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  5. Happy Tiger

    Happy Tiger Well-Known Member

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    Someone remove your sense of humour? Read the results then make something up from them. It's fun, honest.
     
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  6. Dr.Stanley O'Google, HCFC

    Dr.Stanley O'Google, HCFC Well-Known Member

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    You're already playing with stats, Happy.

    "In a poll of 3,450 fans by the Hull Daily Mail, 2,370 (68.7%) said they wanted the club to retain its full name of ‘Hull City AFC’ – which has stood with the club since 1904 – or simply ‘Hull City’.

    A significantly smaller 604 were in favour of renaming the club ‘Hull City Tigers’ or ‘Hull Tigers’, Mr Allam’s preferred choice. A sizeable minority of 476 said they didn’t care what the club is called."
     
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  7. captain caveman

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    Based on a home crowd of 20 000, 16 550 dont care enough about the name change to bother voting. I am one of them.
     
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  8. Fez

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    And there you have it; an unfortunate, but, nevertheless, a very reasonable take on things.
     
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    Worse than Nazi's, filth, swine,... Oh hang on that's me isn't it?
     
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  10. Dr.Stanley O'Google, HCFC

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    Did you care enough to vote in this poll? I do hope so....
     
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    Most of the pro name changers voting were egg chasers. Also the poll is flawed, when I tried to vote on a couple of occasions, it wouldn't let me, so I didn't bother. Therefore the pro name change sample is probably much higher (Who in their right mind would support this ridiculous idea any way?) the against name change sample is smaller due to technical issues.
     
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  12. Obadiah

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    Or lived in the same house with the same IP address as someone who had already voted.
     
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  13. TygerTyger

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    So with a readership of 170,000 (Wiki), that's about 1% are against the name change enough to vote. So the other 99% are either for the change or don't mind.

    This is great fun, can we do it more often.
     
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  14. DMD

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    That assumes they all read that bit of the HDM web site. I know plenty that don't read it at all. Using Mr Allams analogy, I'd say a lack of a vote is a sign they're in favour of keeping the name, so news reports are of no consequence given it's the FA's decision. So, by your figures, that's another 16,550 in favour.

    A veritable landslide. <ok>
     
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  15. DMD

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    As it's a regional paper, with a potential circulation of the hard copy of over a million, and internet access into many millions more, you'd have to say their record on global marketing leaves them ill-equipped for the debate.
     
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  16. Be Rugby Tit

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    Happy is right... You can make anything up from these statistics.

    I guess the point for me is that the poll will be swung in favour of the "We say no" because as campaigners they actively seek out every opportunity to register their protest.
    The Can't Be Bothered sizeable chunks are only those "can't be bothered" who could be bothered to vote that their "not bothered".

    The more telling statistic is that the majority will continue to buy a season pass next year including those who say that they won't at the moment to make their no vote sound more threatening.
     
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  17. Obadiah

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    Tenfoot Tiger borrows his advertisers' computers to vote for Hull City Tigers 584 times.
     
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  18. TygerTyger

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    Your point is probably the only good one.

    If the name changes, will the ground be full for PL games next season? Almost certainly yes. Problem over.
     
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  19. Double_Dragon

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    Correct, these people aren't Hull City fans, they're a ****ing disgrace.
     
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  20. DMD

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    Nah, he'd have scrawled it all over what's left of CI to "stimulate debate" if he had. ME ME ME ME...
     
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