Off Topic Hull City Centre Public Realm Strategy

What make of car was that ?

 

Skoda Fellatio.



The views expressed in my posts are not necessarily mine.

 

The article also says they are looking for an alternative site the old M & S building on Whitefriargate a better option?
The Hammonds building would be better used as office space.

 

Pretty much everything they could get wrong they did get wrong.

I wonder whether it was the building owners or the market company who stumped up the cash for the refurb, because it won’t have been cheap,

 

Is it feasible for someone else with more nous to take it on? Seems a shame for such a prominent central building to just end up another call centre after all the hype and the refurb.

 

Surely with all the subscriptions Dutch has been pm’ing us all for for the last 12 years
Hull city not606 could take it over ?

 

The biggest shame is it's given everyone who slags Hull off a reason to say I told you so when the full story is it was badly run and could have been successful if managed better. Keep the faith.

 

I don’t see why not. I suppose it depends on what the owners see as more profitable/less hassle.

I couldn’t agree with this more. This could have been so exciting and I still believe it can. There’s a place in Hull for this, just not in the way it was done.

 

You reading the HDM now?

 

Completely agree. I've seen a lot of people saying high end stuff can never work in Hull but there's loads of nice places over at the marina/fruit market side of town that do really well.

 

And that to my mind is the issue - wrong place.
Sorry, but as said before, the City centre has unfortunately become a **** hole. The rate it's gone down hill, even since 2017 CoC, is alarming (at least to those that don't have 'boiled frog' syndrome).
Of course, regeneration has to start somewhere, but that (HoH) was never going to be the catalyst. Maybe, just maybe, the Albion Street / BHS regeneration might be a catalyst .... it would be nice to think so, but personally I doubt it, I suspect the ship has (or 3 ships have) long since sailed.

 

Saw a video earlier of a lady talking about Hanley, in Stoke, it was one of the busiest areas only a few years ago, now virtually all shut down, so busy the cops shut the roads on a weekend, seems like not just Hull suffering, but a country wide problem

 

Sadly true.

 

True it's grinding negativity .
They live to see things fail .

 

Some do, many don't, but a canny businessman would know the market and pitch the product accordingly.

Those running HoH made a pigs ear of it from so many different aspects.

 

The comments on the HDM are mostly wind ups, and tend to be the same people changing their pseudonyms, but yes people do pull Hull down a lot, but there again I don't think that it's exclusive to Hull. What I don't understand is that no one seems to tackle Trinity House about their practices down Whitefriargate, high rents etc. Turning empty places into apartments seems endemic but is it a solution, I'm not sure. The main problem is, and has been as long as I can remember is geography, and the constant refrain of Hull being a dump, the end of the line, (actually it is as regards the railways). But maybe a silly observation but none the less it won't help Hull's image, some of the worlds top class snooker players and in Hull this week, Bonus Arena, and yet the place looks empty on the TV.

But when you have the usual candidates for where people would rather go to shop most of them are on major motorway links, people from the likes of Barnsley, Hunslet, Rotherham, Bradford and the likes are hardly likely to come to Hull to shop, or visit, when Leeds is on their doorstep. Yet Hull people would rather go there, regardless of the extra time and costs, than shop in Hull, so Hull spirals even more on a perceived downward spiral. Scunthorpe and Grimsby also suffer in the same way, this part of the UK is, in all respects, out on a limb and don't receive the level of investment to try and reverse that situation. There is no doubt many bad decisions have been made to add to Hull's woes, we had a thriving cafe culture on the top deck of Princes Quay, only for that to be shut down and a cinema put in it's place, no wonder the place is now an eyesore of empty shops, despite the attempts at a revival.

Hammonds was a bold, if misguided, attempt at something new, disposable income is low around these parts, not for everyone no. But many people are not in the price bracket that some of the products being sold were aimed at. The refrain in the HDM centres on the druggies, immigrants, vagrants, things that other cities, and I have visited a few through coach holidays, suffer the same outcome. Sleeping in doorways is nothing new but to me what seems different is that nothing seems to happen to alleviate the matter. And again where do these new additions to area, from far flung place on the globe. go to or what to they do? Many are not allowed to work, even it they wanted to, so they gather where like minded people gather and indeed it is not a pretty sight. But I have seen the same in Liverpool, Manchester, Birmingham, Coventry and other city centres and no I do not know what the answer is, I hope someone does, for Hull's sake.