Without him we’d be top of the league with him its clinging on just above relegation places Every time I see the team sheet I feel gutted as I know we probably aren’t going to win and it seems that is the case. Games started-21 Points- 20 Per game- 0.95 46 Game Total- 44 League Position- 22nd Games Not started- 5 Points- 11 Per game- 2.2 46 Game Total- 101 League Position- 1st Seems clear to me the quicker we get this passenger out of the team the better (League position based on 2014/2015 totals)
Its in the post!! I’ve watched him on more than one occasion off the ball this season and, when we’ve had the ball he has literally lined himself up between an opposition player and the line of sight to our player who has the ball. You wouldnt have noticed unless you were specifically watching him but I swear to God that is genuinely an honest statement. I've seen it more than once. Not that he could be relied on to do much if he did get the ball but to intentionally make himself unavailable for the ball is for me a passenger. Also his tackling and interception stats which should be his strong point aren’t good either. By your definition you could pick any remorely fit 20 something fan out the crowd on a match day and put them in the side and they wouldn’t be a ‘passenger’. Surely quality and contribution has to come into it
I think in clubs like ours where things are unstable and nervous, there will always be certain players who are the scapegoat and get all the stick. And there are players who get chance after chance when they don't deserve it. It's just the way it is; the majority of fans tend to fancy one player over another and offload their scorn onto certain individuals. Henry is one of those players. I'm not saying he's great and I also think he's a bit of a knob in real life, going by his political views. But he definitely doesn't deserve the rough time he gets from fans. He's by no means the worst of the bunch and has actually put in some good performances this season. He's not the reason we've been losing. With that said, he doesn't change anything too positively in general; he'll never turn our season around. I actually prefer Sandro. As has been said, maybe he'd be effectively used as a RB.
If This is complete crap Managers pick him because he is our best player over each season To actual cherry pick rubbish and spend time doing so shows your real agenda We are where we are because we are Shameful supporter
I'd move Henry on in the blink of an eye. Holloway thinks the team looks jaded and needs freshening up. It needs a bloody enema Speculation of Crouch coming again. I'd have him on a shortish contract.
Good data albeit a small sample. Would be interesting to see each player's stats at the end of the season. It doesn't take a genius to see Henry's limits. He's a glorified middle distance runner nowadays and not a very good one. Covers lots of ground but so does a squirrel. Essentially, he does nothing Doughty can't.
Err no, our best players have been Charlie, Faurlin, and Hall I don't always agree with Damage, but accusing him of that for purely quoting some game stats (agree isolated, but facts all the same), is unnecessary. At least he has spent some time researching to post a point of view, rather than pure personal opinion.
Well the evidence suggest if they didn't pick him then we would do better. Not sure why it makes me a 'shameful supporter' to put a set of facts on the site. But yes I would like to have seem Luongo, Chery, even Doherty, JET or Polter in the side instead of him and would like to going forward. All of them including Faurlin unbelievably have been on the bench and not on the pitch instead of Henry I'm a suporter of QPR and not any individual. If there is a player costing us points whether that be due to lack of form or a lack of quality then I want them out the team and a better alternative in Looks to me that you've got more loyalty to Henry that Rangers Yeah small sample on the games he hasn't started but not at all small on the 21 he has started Agree he's just a runner. Doesn't actually get on the ball, win a tackle or effect the game enough. So often he's pretty much on top of the centre backs. They receive the ball 10 yards in front of him. He runs over to them but as the in-game stats show he doesn't get there in time to make a tackle or an interception because they've already made their pass. But because he has run over their it gets misconstrued that, "oh he's working hard, that's useful". But it just isn't Don't like Doughty but do think he's better than Henry. Far more likely to make a tackle and get on the ball. Lots of options. At home a 4-4-2 with Faurlin plus Sandro or Luongo. Plus 2 out of Austin, Polter or JET is to me a better team and it's the sort of positve move we've been crying out for since JFH has arrived
To state as fact that we would be top of the league if Henry hadn't played is just ridiculous. No one can know for sure whether the player replacing him would have contributed to the team getting more points or not.
wow so that's how you prove how sh*t a player is. Someone should do the same for the whole squad just to see if there's anyone sh*tter. I'm no Henry lover or loather, do I think he should be picked? Probably not but I'd never fault his effort.
Eh? Where have I stated as fact we would finish top? I have just taken our points per game average with and without him starting. That is the factual part Then applying that average to 46 game season is just to apply perspective. Thought that went without saying but obviously not
I think you'd have to run a double blinded random controlled trial over several seasons, with an appropriate comparator and published, peer reviewed results, before this would constitute 'evidence'. Ask Beth, she knows. At the very least you need to run the same comparison with every other member of the squad and produce a points won when player X on/ off the pitch table to see if Henry is at the bottom of it. And even then you would be open to all the usual criticisms of post hoc statistical analyses. And given that you have data on Henry for two and a half seasons I think you owe it to yourself to run your analysis across the whole time Henry has been at the club, to see if your conclusions hold true. Then chuck in the variables - who else was in the team for each day (I'm willing to bet that nearly every losing game featuring Henry also featured Green - is there a relationship?), was Austin playing etc etc. You'd probably be able to show that if Austin started every game we'd win the World Cup though.
I have to agree with Damage, my heart sinks when I see Henry's name in the starting line-up. We have several better options and It just seems to be a terribly conservative and negative selection.
Completely agree with that first part, me and the guys I sit with have noticed that too. Very strange. Hides when we've got the ball.
Have you seriously nothing better to do with your spare time? This is almost obsessional. Most people can see with their eyes what's wrong with our team...
