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How Much Money Does Bristol City Have?

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  1. wizered

    wizered Ol' Mucker Staff Member

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    How much money does Bristol City have to spend this summer?
    In-depth look at the finances at City and how it might affect transfers

    The Championship is arguably one of the toughest leagues in the world to navigate because of the disparity between the haves and have nots - majorly influenced by Premier League parachute payments.

    Head coach Lee Johnson also regularly refers to the league as being the fifth best in the world.

    The financial cushion clubs are afforded, even for being relegated straight back to England's second tier, offers a huge financial advantage, though some clubs are so mismanaged that they even tumble down another division again, cough, Sunderland, cough.

    Such discrepancy immediately makes things tougher for the likes of Bristol City, although as other clubs have shown, money is not everything.

    The Robins announced a large operating loss of £17.12m last December for their 2016-17 accounts, offset by good profits from player trading - principally the club record sale of Jonathan Kodjia.

    Profits on player trading was reported as £13.6m, helping Bristol City towards a more palatable loss of £3.26m overall.

    Although the Robins reported a sizeable £13.2m loss in the year before, City need not worry about falling foul of Financial Fair play rules, of which there will be some scrutiny of Cardiff, unless they post losses of more than £20m for the next accounting period.

    That is very unlikely to happen unless the club embarks on a spending spree. And given that City's senior hierarchy have explained that the aim is to become self-sufficient, that won't happen.

    Further, because of the good Carabau Cup run this past season and improved revenues from the fully operational Ashton Gate - with likely increased commercial revenues and the best average attendances for 39 years boosting the coffers - and there will be some means for optimism on the financial front.

    The club also recently announced record sales for season ticket sales for 2018-19 further swelling the finances.

    CEO Mark Ashton recently said in his final programme notes of the season: "The largest average attendance at Ashton Gate for 39 years has been followed by record advance season card sales for next season - showing the club is moving in the right direction."

    It was asked by one financial pundit earlier in the year if City need a big sale this summer. There's no financial imperative but if the Robins want to spend big they might need to sell big too as Lansdown won't countenance lavish spending.

    And with several star players in delicate contract negotiations with the club there could yet be a chance of their top players being sold.

    The outcomes of the discussions with Joe Bryan, Bobby Reid and Marlon Pack will likely dictate much of City's summer spending plans. With the Robins unable to record more than £39m losses over a three year rolling period (so £13m a year) there is some room for manouevre. However, it's unlikely that we'll see the club depart from that policy of looking to sign young an untested players than the tried and test from the Championship.

    The odd snipe - such as Nathan Baker was - for Championship talents at reasonable prices could happen too. Daniel Johnson of Preston North End has been linked for one, and the midfielder only has a year on his deal.

    There's also the Steve Lansdown effect with the owner likely to be happy underwriting some relatively decent investment as he does year on year at Ashton Gate.

    There will then almost certainly be some money to spend with Lansdown retaining his ambition, whetted by nights such as the win over Manchester United back in December.

    But significant sales will be needed for any significant spending of more than £5-10m, which would be similar to what the club reported spent last summer and an amount that could be swallowed up regarding FFP and the majority shareholder's existing commitment.

    Those discussions with the key players could significantly change the landscape at Ashton Gate this summer, however.

    https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/how-much-money-bristol-city-1590057
     
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    johngalleyfan2 Well-Known Member

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    14s and 6d
     
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    ccfcremotesupport Well-Known Member

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    Interesting little snipe in there given the title oh wizened one.

    Thought you objected to mentioning the bluebirds on YOUR board for fear of interbreeding between species.

    Given our spending was comparable to yours, we reduced our wage bill by 30% and the ongoing conversion of debt to equity by Mr Tan I'd have thought there were several other clubs with far more to hide than we do.

    Wolves, Fulham, Villa, Direby, Middlsbrough have all blown far more than either of us, yet only Cardiff get singled out. Interesting stance from across the Brizzle Channel.
     
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    Oldsparkey Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Isn't it about time that someone took a look at the parachute payments and the controversy that it creates because in my books you should be punished for failure and not rewarded beyond belief. How can teams like Bristol City compete in the transfer market successfully when you are trying to lure some player or another and you are competing on an uneven surface when it comes down to the bank balance and the fees and wages that it brings your way?

    How many pampered rats will leave their individual sinking ship because it just sank a division and their inflated egos can't handle the shame of not playing in the Premier League, even when you consider they were possibly part of why they went down in the first place. Greed is my biggest rant and those that choose that way are generally not as good as they figure. Go figure EH.
     
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    He's copied & pasted the article word for word, so if you have an issue it's with a writer at the Bristol Post.
     
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    ccfcremotesupport Well-Known Member

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    I know there is little original from said individual with a lot of cutting and pasting.
    Wasn't having a go at him, just pointing out the focus on Cardiff, and knowing the wizened ones objection to any mention of Cardiff on the brizzle board, I thought he might have redacted that bit.
     
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    Oldsparkey Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Nick and remote - sounds about right and nothing unusual or wrong for that matter with copying and pasting media stuff on the forum, even if some do that in preference to posting thier own views or knowledge.

    It's just unfortunate that the media author chose to mention Cardiff in his piece as probably being "investigated" over FFP issues. Plenty of figures for Bristol City in his article but nothing about Cardiff to support his mention of them which tends to suggest he's just shooting from the hip.

    Such unsubstantiated fodder is food and drink for many opposition supporters who would like to believe it. Then they wonder why supporters of the maligned club react - c'est la vie. <ok>
     
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    AshtonRed Well-Known Member

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    A bit 'tetchy' aren't you guys ?
     
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    ccfcremotesupport Well-Known Member

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    What we got to be tetchy about?
    Looking forward to at least 1 season in the big league. All very exciting.
    More a bit of sport than tetchiness.
    How about you?
     
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    Oldsparkey Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Nah, no way Ashton - we just tend to enjoy the forums and get on with it on here, good or bad. <ok>
     
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    AshtonRed Well-Known Member

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    Those are all good reasons why you have no reason to be tetchy , which I why I'm confused that you obviously are, but it takes all sorts I guess.
     
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    Oldsparkey Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Sure does - and long may the forums continue that way. <ok>
     
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    wizered Ol' Mucker Staff Member

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    Another thread ruined, boring and achieving nothing.
     
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