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How likely is it that Baggy Faceflaps will do time?

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  1. Pipe4Life

    Pipe4Life Active Member

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    Harry looks like he's been caught bang to rights with his tax evading shennaingans and a mere mortal on the streets would be lucky to escape a term in her majestys prison services given the sums being discussed and the the fairly obvious evidence of trying to beat the system.

    my question is what sort of penalties does this kind of crime incur given the numbers involved?

    hes obvioulsy a man of means so i wouldn't be surprised to see him walk but If hes straight up guilty whats the worst he can expect?
     
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  2. Gutierrez's Right Boot

    Gutierrez's Right Boot Well-Known Member

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    Thing is would Tottenham possible charge him with pbringing the club into distribute
     
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  3. overseasTOON

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    I feel sorry for him.

    I never knew that Monaco would allow a dog to open a a bank account and it seems that due to some canine current account craftiness, poor old Harry is gonna have to do some time.

    Lucky he didn't have a cat.
     
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  4. Jock McMagpie

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    If Dirty Harry does time I would be very very surprised. He is the next England manager don't you know!!
     
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  5. jimileysbaldhead

    jimileysbaldhead Well-Known Member

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    I reckon if they unfastened the saddlebags on the side of his face they'd find another fistfull of dollars.
     
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  6. Freddd

    Freddd Well-Known Member

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    I won't be surprised to see him walk. If he's convicted, though, I would expect a stretch inside measured in some months, maybver up to a couple of years. The time to use fame to your advantage is when negotiating with the prosecutor leading up to trial. In the full glare of the Courtroom a judge is likely to play the sentencing by the book
     
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  7. Freddd

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    From the CPS manual. It looks liek if he goes down he won't be available for the 2014 World Cup


    Fraudulent Evasion of Income Tax
    Date Produced: 1 December 2009

    Title: Revenue Offences

    Offence: Fraudulent Evasion of Income Tax

    Legislation: Section 144 Finance Act 2000


    Mode of Trial: Either Way

    Statutory Limitations & Maximum Penalty: 7 years

    Seriousnesss and Aggravating Factors:
    The planning of an offence
    High level of profit from the offending.
    Offenders operating in groups and gangs
    Whether others were drawn in and corrupted
    'Professional offending'
    An attempt to conceal or dispose of evidence
    Offending carried out over a significant period of time
    Use of another persons identity
    Abuse of position of trust
    Mitigating Factors
    A prompt plea of guilty
    Peripheral involvement
    Behaviour not fraudulent from the outset
    Misleading or incomplete advice
    Voluntary cessation of offending
    Complete and unprompted disclosure of the extent of the fraud
    Voluntary restitution
    Financial Pressure

    Relevant Sentencing Guidelines
    The Sentencing Guidelines Council Sentencing for Fraud (statutory offences)

    Guidelines to Fraudulent Evasion of Income Tax under S144 for the Finance Act 2000
    NOTE: Where the actual amount is greater or smaller than the figure on which the starting point is based, that is likely to be one of the factors that will move the sentence within the range.

    Fraudulent from the outset, professionally planned and either fraud carried out over a significant period of time or multiple frauds
    £500,000 or more (SP based on £750,000): SP: 5 years custody, Range: 4-7 years custody

    £100,000 or more, and less than £500,000 (SP based on £300,000): SP: 4 years custody, Range: 3-5years

    £20,000 or more, and less than £100,000 (SP based on £60,000): SP: 2 years custody, Range: 18 months - 3 years custody
     
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  8. overseasTOON

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    Can he add the 3 league titles he'll win to his managerial record when he's in charge of 'Arrys Mean Machine from 2012 to 2015?
     
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    <laugh>.
     
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  10. nufc1991

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    If he gets found guilty, there is no way the FA could appoint him as England manager in the summer. Maybe we should be abit more concerned about the possibilty of Pardew getting the England job?
     
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  11. StoneyNUFC

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    I'm betting 18 months.

    Can I do that?!?!?

    I'm off to the bookies :D
     
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  12. Chimpz

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    Looks like he could do some time he ticks a few of the boxes in the seriousness and aggravating factors
    Seriousnesss and Aggravating Factors:
    The planning of an offence
    High level of profit from the offending.
    Offenders operating in groups and gangs
    Whether others were drawn in and corrupted
    'Professional offending'
    An attempt to conceal or dispose of evidence
    Offending carried out over a significant period of time
    Use of another persons identity (his dog)
    Abuse of position of trust

    And he doesnt tick many of these boxes

    Mitigating Factors
    A prompt plea of guilty
    Peripheral involvement
    Behaviour not fraudulent from the outset
    Misleading or incomplete advice (maybe)
    Voluntary cessation of offending
    Complete and unprompted disclosure of the extent of the fraud
    Voluntary restitution
    Financial Pressure

    Not looking good for saggy chops. Couldn't happen to a nicer person
     
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  13. Ameobi's Apprentice

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    <laugh>!!
     
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  14. Masanari

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    He will not get sent to prison, famous and rich people get away with everything. I suspect he will just get a fine and a suspended sentence or something.
     
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  16. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    With any luck but I suspect the crafty so and so will squirm his way out of it. He'd probably end up managing the prison team. Titus at the back with Marlon King up top.
     
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  17. QWOP

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    At worst, he will be told to repay everything. However no custodial sentence will be handed out. He is, after all, rich and famous (i this country anyway)!
     
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  18. Pipe4Life

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    Tell that to flloyd mayweather. he's been wriggling out of the prison sentence for ages and it finally caught up with him. thats america though i suppose...
     
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  19. Badgers Assemble

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    the fact that he pleaded not guilty means that his punishment will be harsher <ok>
     
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  20. Masanari

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    He still managed to get it postponed so he can fight in May and earn millions and millions of pounds.
     
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