I was gonna post about this but figured i better not considering the boards Irish **** just now especially when a couple of them are clearly sympathizers and given the chance probably sing the songs, i wouldn't worry to much nothing is likely to happen small fine for you thats about it.
I don't quite know how to articulate my frustration with this situation without seeming as if I'm supporting Celtic supporters right to sing to IRA songs. It's not so much that I would like them to or want to be able to sing them myself, it's more the double standards across different parts of the United Kingdom when it comes to the Irish situation - and how one side has been criminalised while the other made heroes. To summarise my frustration, I grew up with English and Scottish soldiers pointing guns at me every day in Belfast, yet in Glasgow it's illegal for me to sing a song. Belfast and Glasgow are both in the United Kingdom, all of the innocent victims of the British Army were also British citizens. What makes it ok to send your army into my county but not ok for me to sing about it in yours? Why does it seem that the rest of British society gets to wear Poppies and collect money for people who fought on the British side of that war - but I have to shut up and be ashamed about the people who fought on my side - or else I could be arrested!
The thing is I don't actually want to sing them and I recognise that the majority of little neds who do sing them haven't got the first clue about Ireland - I just don't like the fact that it would be illegal for me to do so if I wanted to. I am an Irish Republican - at the last election several hundred thousand British citizens declared themselves to be also, that does not in itself make us all criminals.
This It shouldn't be illegal but, in my opinion, they don't belong at a football ground! Sing them at parades, marches whereever... just not at fitba
what is? The fact that people may get the club into trouble chanting songs the majority find offensive or not relevant to scottish football...
majority of who? There isn't a club participating in any Uefa competition whose supporters don't sing "offensive" songs.
Does no one find it funny that this Glasgow copper was too **** scared to arrest anyone so instead greets to UEFA It shouldn't be about banning songs, it was tried before and failed What you have to do is ask why people sing them. If the answer is "because my daddy did" then luckily you'll be to stupid to procreate and the problem will work itself out But is it even a "problem" How many arrests are there at games nowadays? You get a mob of men together on a weekly basis and their common ideals will take over...songs, hatreds, politics So the answer? Bring more women
Mick - Round and round as this issue goes, I fully understand and empathize with your position - just because the 'Establishment' or 'the majority', declare that something is 'wrong' does not make it morally so. The very fact that the alleged leaders of the Provisional IRA have an electoral mandate, to rule jointly in Government, must lend legitimacy to what they considered as their 'struggle' -which was declared by the British state, using propaganda and the media, as criminality. 'Terrorism' in all it's forms may have occurred but it was not limited to the Provisional IRA - the British ruling state was equally guilty of it yet the 'poppy' which supports those who perpetrated it on behalf of the British state is expected to be accepted! The overly simplistic views of some who have posted on this overall topic is mind-boggling to say the least. The failure to recognize, or willingness to sustain, the inherent historic, massive, Irishness of Celtic football club, by some on this forum, appears, to me, to show an amazing ignorance. I think that Celtic FC authorities do recognize this Irishness and are trying to walk a fine line between it and bending the corporate knee in recognition of business needs. However, in my opinion, it would be a poorer world if voices such as yours and many others of the same ilk, were not given due cognizance by powerful organizations such as Celtic FC which, after all, are one of the few means by which your voices can be heard and represented. Keep the faith!
The side that win tend to be the army and the side that lose the illegal terrorists with guns, thats just how it is. The issue I think is why didnt the Stewards at the game do anything about it? Its their job to throw out people signing these songs NOT THE POLICE! likewise at the other side of the city.
You club has Irish heritage not IRA heritage you didn't help fund them so the link between Celtic and any form of the IRA is mythical, we play football in scotland not terrorize people (and that goes for any paramilitary, loyalist or republican).
