After seeing the games and results from today ive been trying to think how can we be a bit more positive and actually have a go at scoring goals and winning games. Anyway heres what I came up with Mannone Coates Brown Oshea Rodwell Catts Johnson Giacherinni Alvarez Any 2 of the 3 useless ****ers Just think we need 3 attacking players behind the front man. I can see why we play 1 man up top as the 3 striker's we have this season have been pretty ****e so we couldn't really justify playing 2 of them bbut maybe 2 could help each other out and draw defenders away to create space for Johnson Giac and Alvarez. With Rodwell and Catts playing quite deep there is enough defensive cover to play 3 at the back for me and even if teams get down the flanks against us those 3 have enough experience and are good enough in the air to deal with balls coming into our box. This may be harsh on van aanholt as he was our best player yesterday but its all about putting out a team capable of attacking and trying to win games than playing the beat 11 players. After seeing Leicester score 5 against Man Utd and Palace scoring 3 at Everton I just wish we had the balls to try and win games rather than setting up not to get beat and trying to pinch a goal here or there. Weve drawn 4 of 5 games if we had won 2 and lost 2 we would be 2 points better off. As the saying goes fortune favours the brave and I think its time for us to be brave and have a go especially with 2 winnable home games coming up.
Good shout, we need to do something, as you say we need to win a game and so far we have looked poor both ends of the pitch.
Might be worth a punt to go for that free agent, Jonas, if he hasn't already been snapped up....like you say, we need goals from strikers, and fast !
For swansea I'd go Mannone Coates-------Brown Jones------------------------------Aanholt Catts Rodwell Johnson--------Giacc---------Gomez Wickham Subs Pant Vergini O'shea Larsson Alvarez Buckley Mandron Propper f**ing fullbacks, more pace than O'shea, something more creative than larsson shoved up wickham's arse to improve the service and take some of the build up play responsibly off him. Some pace and trickery on the bench in Alvarez and Buckley with the addition of an unknown quantity with nothing to lose in the form of Mandron. One player who picks himself for me is Van Aanholt. By far the most effective player we have at the moment and I wouldn't dream of dropping him.
interesting that Wickham and Jozy are being called after minimal opportunity this season. Tell me what chance they have really had this season? If you mention Wickham in Spurs and Burnley then see my other posts about "isolation". f** me the isolation cell in a prison sees more company than Wickham has as a centre forward. I'm not an Altidore fan but he's had zero opportunity this season. Fletcher had more support in his 2 games as a striker than Wickham has in either of the last 2 and he looked terrible. Wickham has been completely isolated. Against Spurs he did well but against burnley (who are terrible by the way) why wasn't someone pushing up to get with him quicker? They are not a team to be scared of. Gus has his work cut out Think bri's team is worth a try. Gomez has looked very useful every time he's come on
I think the problem starts at the back. With the system Poyet wants to play, the defenders need to be fast, pick a pass and defend when needed. Poyet needs to change something, and for me it would be to drop both Brown and O'Shea. Its not that they are performing badly, its that they cannot pick the pass and simply 'lump' it forward. We then need two proper out and out fullbacks. Van Aanholt picks him self, but Jones needs to play. Vergini is solid, but doesn't have the pace as a fullback. So the back four should look like this: Jones.........Vergini.........Coates.........Van Aanholt The back four has more pace, they can all pass and defend. Now to midfield. The problem is that we have two similar type players in the middle, Cattermole and Larson. The reason why I say two similar types is that they are both combative. Rodwell is our box to box player, but we need to play someone in the middle as a playmaker. That for me would be either Gomez or Giacc. I would prefer Gomez as he is more accustom with the English way. So my middle 3 would be: ....................Cattermole............. .........Gomez...............Rodwell......... That gives us protection, someone to pick a pass and take free kicks, and someone to bomb into the box. Finally the top 3. I think we should play with Inside Forwards rather than wingers. It should get us more goals. Alvarez when fit would most certainly play, and hopefully he will be up to speed sooner rather than later. The problem is the enigma Johnson. Great somedays, bad others. At present I would play Buckley on the right side of the 3. He is more direct, and has played Inside Forward at Brighton. Up top would be Wickham, simply because we have no other option. He has been decent, just has had no service. So my team would be... Mannone Jones Vergini Coates Van Aanholt Gomez Catts Rodwell Buckley Wickham Alvarez That team has pace, flair and passing ability. We can then bring Johnson & Giacc off the bench as impact players. Also, Catts would be captain. Might as well do it now since he will be captain next season IMO - once JOS is sent packing.
I think the problem starts at the back. With the system Poyet wants to play, the defenders need to be fast, pick a pass and defend when needed. Poyet needs to change something, and for me it would be to drop both Brown and O'Shea. Its not that they are performing badly, its that they cannot pick the pass and simply 'lump' it forward. We then need two proper out and out fullbacks. Van Aanholt picks him self, but Jones needs to play. Vergini is solid, but doesn't have the pace as a fullback. So the back four should look like this: Jones.........Vergini.........Coates.........Van Aanholt The back four has more pace, they can all pass and defend. Now to midfield. The problem is that we have two similar type players in the middle, Cattermole and Larson. The reason why I say two similar types is that they are both combative. Rodwell is our box to box player, but we need to play someone in the middle as a playmaker. That for me would be either Gomez or Giacc. I would prefer Gomez as he is more accustom with the English way. So my middle 3 would be: ....................Cattermole............. .........Gomez...............Rodwell......... That gives us protection, someone to pick a pass and take free kicks, and someone to bomb into the box. Finally the top 3. I think we should play with Inside Forwards rather than wingers. It should get us more goals. Alvarez when fit would most certainly play, and hopefully he will be up to speed sooner rather than later. The problem is the enigma Johnson. Great somedays, bad others. At present I would play Buckley on the right side of the 3. He is more direct, and has played Inside Forward at Brighton. Up top would be Wickham, simply because we have no other option. He has been decent, just has had no service. So my team would be... Mannone Jones Vergini Coates Van Aanholt Gomez Catts Rodwell Buckley Wickham Alvarez That team has pace, flair and passing ability. We can then bring Johnson & Giacc off the bench as impact players. Also, Catts would be captain. Might as well do it now since he will be captain next season IMO - once JOS is sent packing.
Why go one about change whatever player when our problem is we spend too much time playing around at the back and the opposition wait for the ball out then hit us with speed when the ball is lost. Our style of play is the problem, not the players.
Not sure I can agree with any of this - our Style of play has been better since Poyet came in than I have seen for a long while. WOuld you rather just hoof it and hope or play patiently? I like the way we play - the personnel are (IMO) the issue. If we play it out slowly from the back then it really is nigh on imposssible to be hit at pace as, inevitably, we still have men covering at the back
One of our biggest problems IMO is lack of movement off the ball. The midfield doesn't seem to move enough to allow the defence to have options. the forward stands like a tin of condensed milk. We need more movement off the ball in most departments, to give some options, too easily to defend against. Catts who again IMO had a poor game is the only one who seems to make himself availble for defenders to pass forward to, Giacc is the only one to provide some sparkle of movment, but doesn't seem to last, probably better coming on as sub. Who else have we got to make runs, drag the opposition about?
Our current system is having 8 players trying to stop the other team scoring and only 3 trying to score. Its obvious that we are going to draw alot of games. The answer is simple imo, drop Larsson and play Giaccherini in the modern number 10 role in a 4-2-3-1 ----------------Mannone------------------- Vergini----Oshea------Brown---Van Aanholt -----------Cattermole--Rodwell------------- Alvarez----------Giaccherini--------Johnson -----------------Wickham-------------------
Vergini at rb and JoS pace are the biggest problem, we can't attack freely when we're babysitting them two. Vergini is no RB can we play a proper attacking rb please and restore some balance, we do own one.
A couple of simple personnel changes, as I think Gus is sticking to his formation: Jones for Vergini Gomez for Larsson I think Rodwell had his best game on Sat and it is starting to bear fruit now to play him up to speed, so Seb misses out for me. Alvarez for Giacch might be more positive too
Starting to think he should go 4-2-3-1 too. Seems to suit many of our players. Rodwell could pick the ball up deep, he's more adept than Catts at that. I thought we struggled to play out from the back cos they pressed high and Catts had to just play back to Vito, or more commonly he just wasn't given the ball. Go on, Gus!
I reckon that last season frightened Poyet and he's being cautious because of that. Our start demoralised the entire club and he's going for safety first ......... it's not what we all want but we have plenty of options. I'm quite confident tbh although I'd like to see us go for it in the 'nowt to lose' matches like Southampton away.
