Now I've nothing against 2/3 young LFC players gaining some experience of the big time but I'm afraid Hodgson is just going too far now. There are SO many players he could call in but he's revisiting his old club every time someone gets a scratch it seems. LFC has not got the majority of the england squad but the thing is.... HODGSON IS A NEGATIVE DEFENSIVE COACH AND ENGLAND WILL FLOP!!! So guess which club is about to get the blame? Yup LFC. Its bad enough Rooney is out through his own thuggery and carroll will be blamed in the group stages despite hodgson putting 10men behind the ball but gerrard is already going down this bloody cramp and will be blamed as captain.... I do find this obsession with returning to lfc time and again when potentially better, players are ignored is quite disconcerting. What chance does kelly, Henderson, Chamberlain have with the english tabloids if the inevitable happens to johnson or walcott or young? what happens to henderson when gerrard is unfit and parker does his achillies? I'll be the firs tto say these guys aint ready for this and its hodgson's fault not theirs when england blows up.
My thoughts exactly. Whilst we are optimistic at the moment I fear that any optimism will be crushed by a media backlash against Liverpool's underpeforming England players. One bad game from Kelly, Carroll, Henderson, Downing, Johnson and they will be forever labelled as underperforming, useless players plying their trade with a midtable team living in the past. I only hope that the vast majority of them don't play regularly enough to be blamed for England's inevitable embarrasment.
Oh for God's sake. Don't make out as if England would actually stand a chance if we were under another coach If he wasn't calling Liverpool players up people would probably be saying it was through bitterness. He has worked with Liverpool's players so he knows more about them. Why is it so strange that he would want to work with players he knows?
Well that's nonsense because he didn't even coach Downing, Henderson or Carroll, they were Dalglish's signings.
Well now you know how Man Utd fans feel. Our players usually get the blame when England inevitably implode.
Why would the LFC players be held to blame? Every other fan & every media outlet has spent a year stating that these players are not good enough to play for LFC which following their logic to its obvious conclusion means certainly not good enough for the national squad. They didn't select themselves, KD isn't running England its their little favourite. So if England fail they must look to uncle Woy alone for ignoring everybody else's superior wisdom. Of course if England somehow do well, using these players will the media tip their hat to them & KD for his smart buys lol......yeah I'll not hold my breath either.
Not sure I agree with this. He's just calling up the best players availble and they appear to be from Liverpool.
Well maybe it would be less of an issue if all your players weren't ruling themselves out for selection for one selfish reason or another.
And specifically to your point. The united players that got "blamed" usually did so because they got red carded in the defining match in some act of childish petulance not for just being rubbish.
If it wasn't for those Man Utd players England's **** team wouldn't have progressed as far as they had anyway
How is that in anyway a defense for losing the plot & throwing away any good or skillful work they showed up that point & single handedly throwing all advantage to the opposition? To argue that is total idiocy & I guarantee you that if Rooney had did that in a united shirt & threw away the title he wouldn't be in it that long..... I
berbs you are right in one thing... england would not win under any coach... if they forced out capello then they'd force out mourinho etc etc... you are wrong i none thing... picking guys he's worked with is an excuse in my view. he's had plenty of choice and chosen to exclude a few people for abd reason in my view. now for the PMK comment who played at lfc during his tenure... IMO downing is one of the FEW left footed wingers in English colours and unfortunately is the scrapings of the barrell... having 30 odd caps = a reason to pick him. I cannot fathom why on earth he picked henderson after his season even when you look at injuries to others... I think the english media is already typing its failure stories... this bull about low expectations and all that is just that... bull... the knives were out the minute redknapp didn't get the job.
No, no they are not. Hes getting his revenge Seriously though there are 4 players to many from Liverpool. Some should never ever ever get anywhere near the squad ever. It should be considered treason to select
Johnson - deserves it. Henderson - no. Downing - no. Gerrard - debatable. Kelly - is good enough, but didn't play too many games last season. Carroll - worth a punt due to his end season form.
England's problem has generally been managers, not players, LFC or MU. Great players have been wasted and their careers poorer because they were played out of position, Scholes and Gerrard in particular, two of the best midfielders of their generation. So, Hodgson's calling up young players. Blimey, that's a shock. But Paddy Barclay, Rafa hater extraordinaire, has just waxed lyrical about Henderson for simply making himself available and Kelly for his versatility. Rio won't make future tournaments but Kelly will and a lot of flying won't be good for Rio's back, Terry issue or not. It's just a surprise Hodgson is using young players at all. I'm not sure Jordan's ready for it. He has loads of potential but didn't handle the cup final pressure at all. But it's a chance for them to shut some mouths, too. I've long held the belief that international football is a different beast to club football and different players and managers shine in it, while those you expect to excel often don't. Did anybody see Messi shine in the World Cup? So some players may just do better than expected. It's a good sign, anyway, that we have so many youngsters good enough to be selected. Thanks, Rafa and Kenny.
Liverpool have just announced their pre-season tour. It will be in Poland and Ukraine starting on 11 June against France...
