so apparently Gerrard thinks that Hendo should take on the captains role when he leaves. Thoughts? Personally I think the kid can develop into that Gerrard role given time and I also think he will make a good captain. He's got some motor on him as well and never stops running. Wish we still had him.....
Always liked the lad.... I remember people on here wanting rid of Hendo and keeping Meyler?! As you rightly say... He's got a great 'engine' and will go on to have a decent career.
I think he's a very good premier league player who will go on to be a great premier league player. Will stop well short of being world class mind but in my eyes that's no different to Gerrard, Lampard, Rooney and a lot of others who've been amongst the best in our league and national team. The only world class players I've seen play for England in my time are Beckham, A Cole, Alan Shearer and Gazza. Off the top of my head that so may have missed one or two from the nineties. Maybe Tony Adams wasn't too far off. Edit: Forgot Paul Scholes. As for the captaincy I think he's the natural choice and a good choice at that. I don't think he'd be the right choice at a top four club or even a team with a realistic chance of a place in the top four but for a Liverpool or a Tottenham I think he's well worth the captaincy. I was outraged when we got rid of him but we got decent money, the deal probably paid for our academy near enough in full bar it's ongoing running costs and since he's gone he's done us proud.
Thanks matey. Now watch me spending the next three days editing the post because I've forgotten another world class English player of my time or someone's given me grief for those I have included. I put Shearer in the list and am willing to accept a ban for it!!!
Thought he'd be the one picked up but I struggle to think of many better left backs in the last 10 years, I'd rate him up there with Lahm. The best since Maldini for me. Englands best performer at several tournaments, utterly consistent, as adept going forwards as he was defensively and love playing against the big players. I think the fact that he's an utter **** is a big problem.
Take that out of the equation and I agree he was a great player. He'd be even better in the modern day with speed being of the essence. Complete twat like !!
Hoddle? World class prick, perhaps. The only other genuinely talented player we've produced, who could have made it in any other team. As for Hendo. Great lad, and defo future captain. just hope he has a **** one at the weekend
Had it not been for your edit I would have reported this post. World class players who have played for England since say 1990, Ashley Cole for certain, Tony Adams, Rio Ferdinand Gary Neville and John Terry are stonewall, Scholes, Lampard, Gascoigne, Lineker, Shearer, Rooney and Owen. The trouble is most of them thought they were better than world class, their ego's got in the way of succeeding. In my lifetime, Scholes, Beckham, Ashley Cole, Michael Owen and Owen Hargreaves have put in at least one world class shift for England, the rest aren't worth a wet fart in an England shirt.
Henderson is a very tidy, capable, player in my eyes, but world class? Certainly not ATM and he has a fair way to go if he's to become it. However, we got top dollar, so there was no robbery in a fair exchange and good luck to him. Certainly seems to be doing better than the ginger fellah we lost, forget his name....
Makes the other two look like brunettes! please log in to view this image Found this from a 03/04 article from ALS. Perhaps swap Lumsdon for McShane and Hall(a fullback) for Colback please log in to view this image GOALKEEPER: LIONEL PEREZ Okay, okay Lee-o-nel wasn’t really ginger and most people will remember him as peroxide blonde, but can anyone think of a proper ginger goalkeeper? Mid-nineties Mag laughing stock Mike Hooper once played a reserve game for us, while Ned Doig might have been ginger if he wasn’t bald. He was always photographed in black and white too, like Leigh Richmond Roose, another keeper that we cant be sure about. Lionel therefore, with his flowing auburn locks of the 1996/97 Premiership season, starts the team off. RIGHT BACK: STEVE WHITWORTH Whitworth had won international honours with England while with Leicester City- his first club. After joining Sunderland he captained the side to promotion into the top flight in 1980, but despite the success never enjoyed the popularity of other promotion winning captains such as Charlie Hurley or Kevin Ball. However compared to some of his ‘ginger team mates’ he was enormously successful and talented. LEFT BACK: GARY OGILVIE Arriving on Wearside from Dundee in 1988, 21-year-old Gary Ogilvie had the look of a character from ‘Oor Wullie and the Broons.’ He found his chances in the side restricted because of the presence of John Kay, Reuben Agboola and Frankie Gray, but principally because he wasn’t very good at playing football. After a single appearance as sub in each of the Football League Cup, Ogilvie returned to Scotland with Airdrie only a year after joining the club. CENTRE BACK: NIGEL SADDINGTON A product of the once mighty Grove Cranes youth side, Saddington managed less than 20 appearances for Doncaster Rovers Before the Yorkshire club showed him the door. He went into Wearside League Football, but was then given a reprieve by Lawrie Mackemenemy, which perhaps says it all. After making his debut at Barnsley in December 1986, Saddington made only four more appearances in red and white before moving on to Carlisle United, where he had a few useful seasons. CENTRE BACK: JODY CRADDOCK While not looking especially ginger during his time at the club, Craddock was given away by his mam when she provided ALS with some exclusive photos of her lad in his youth. He must have really liked Mick Hucknall. The fact that Cradock was always part down to his lack of true ginger-mess, although his occasional own goal or swing-and-a-mess proved that the ginger tinge still had a detrimental effect on his game. CENTRE BACK: DAVID CORNER Local lad Corner couldn’t have dreamt that he’d be walking out at a Wembley Final six months later when he made his debut in a 3-1 defeat against Nottingham Forest in September 1984. However, with Shaun Elliott suspended for the Milk Cup final, Corner found himself thrust into the starting line-up. Unfortunately, during the first half of the game the game he also found himself being robbed of the ball as he tried to run it out over the by-line, and the rest is history. Corner had the honour of partnering Saddington on the latter’s debut at Barnsley, meaning that we had two ginger players in our defence. Unsurprisingly we lost 1-0. RIGHT MIDFIELD: CHRIS LUMSDON Our most recent ginger player, Lumsdon was part of the ‘never quite gonna make it at the top are they?’ reserve team midfield that also contained Paul Thirlwell, Tommy Butler and Neil Wainwright. After overcoming his desperate disadvantages of birth (i.e.-being born in Newcastle.) Lumsdon hailed as a ‘super kid’ after making his debut at Wolves in the 1997/98 season, but never lived up to that billing. While always looking a useful player at reserve level he never got much of a chance in the first team and eventually left to join Barnsley after initially going there on loan. FORWARD: GARETH HALL please log in to view this image Although not truly ginger, there was more than a hint of orange in the fatWelshman's barnet. More than there was a hint of talent in his body, anyhow. Hall began his Sunderland career by playing in a defeat at Derby and soon afterwards he was red carded at Leicester for sneezing too close to a young Emile Heskey. Hall went on to live up to the standard of most of our ginger players over the next season and a half to cement his place in a variety of derogatory Sunderland XI's. CENTRAL MIDFIELD: MICKEY HORSWILL (CAPTAIN) The most highly achieving ginger player at the club in living memory, Mickey Horswill made his debut in a 3-1 win over Preston in April 1972. A little over a year later he was playing in the FA cup final aged just 20. Up against fellow ginger, Scottish short arse Billy Bremner, Horswill helped Sunderland lift the cup for the first time in 36 years. A year later he left the club for Manchester City, but didn’t really made it there and he ended up doing the rounds with Plymouth and Hull. He still has the same haircut that he had back then, if not as much hair. LEFT MIDFIELD: TOMMY LYNCH Lynch failed to make an impact at the club mainly because he was utter bollocks. He arrived from Irish side Limerick in 1988 aged 24 and made his first team debut in a 1-1 draw at Chelsea. However with Denis Smith setting his sights on the top flight, Lynch found his prospects limited and only made four more appearances before being shipped off to Shrewsbury. He became something of a stalwart there, which perhaps summed up his abilities. CENTRE FORWARD: IAN WALLACE Poor old Ian Wallace. Shortarsed and ginger. Not any good either. Not in a Sunderland shirt anyway. He arrived at Roker Park from amusingly named French club Brest. Unfortunately the diminutive Scot played like a tit. One of his six goals in 40 appearances came in the league at Norwich in a dress rehearsal for the Milk Cup final. However after taking semi-final hero Colin West’s place at Wembley he failed to deliver. After a couple of second-rate seasons he moved on to Portugal and then Australia, where he moved into management.
