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Have the FA screwed cup again?

Discussion in 'Southampton' started by lamby, Feb 6, 2012.

  1. lamby

    lamby Needs a cold shower

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    Should Terry have been stripped of the England captaincy now when the trial is months away. Surely they should have acted straight after the incident or left it until he was found guiilty?
     
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  2. fran-MLs little camera

    fran-MLs little camera Well-Known Member

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    If they'd acted straight away it would have looked as if he was presumed guilty before the trial. You could argue the same now, but I think they would claim now that the court case was distracting!? Not sure about that one. However, Terry should have stepped down to avoid embarassment all round saying it was in the best interest of the team. That's what a gentleman would have done, but hey ho!
     
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  3. tomw24

    tomw24 Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Its the right call to strip him of the captaincy. You can't have someone accused and charged with racism leading England at Euro 2012
     
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  4. St. Luigi Scrosoppi

    St. Luigi Scrosoppi Well-Known Member

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    It is called indecision and not knowing what you are doing.

    It could also mean that they are devoid of a sense of responsibilty for descency and morality in football.

    All of these things they are meant to do, ie manage the game, but they aren't up to the Job. Just ask Seb Coe he laughs at their incompetence. What he did with the Olympic Bid and has done since would all be totally beyond the incompetent bufoons who run football in this country.

    They are a mockery.

    If they understood their responsibility Terry would not even be playing for England never mind lose the captaincy.

    Pure self interest and selling their soul for a few a few bob.
     
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  5. fran-MLs little camera

    fran-MLs little camera Well-Known Member

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    The FA hoped the court case was before the Euros and the decision was made for them, once it was clear it wouldn't be, they decided to act. Terry has proved earlier with the Wayne Bridge incident that he isn't a suitable captain as he is divisive. Still gives the papers something to talk about when we make our usual early exit.
     
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  6. pass the football

    pass the football Well-Known Member

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    It's a total ****ing mess. There is a precedent for this - Woodgate and Bowyer were excluded from England duty when they were prosecuted for affray and they should have done the same here.
     
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  7. Itchen North Matt

    Itchen North Matt Active Member

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    I do think that Terry shouldn't be captain, but do sympathise with Capello as it should be his decision as the manager. John Terry could have done the decent thing and stepped down, but since when has he been decent?
     
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  8. ----HistoryRepeating----

    ----HistoryRepeating---- Well-Known Member

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    Euro 2012 will be more humiliating than ever. If I were Capello, I wouldn't take Rio or Terry, pick a couple of unknowns (to him, not the football community) & let them run around & sweet blood for the shirt.
    A totally disillusioned England fan.
     
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  9. TheSecondStain

    TheSecondStain Needs an early night

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    IMO, the FA dropped Terry from the captaincy for several reasons. 1] The trial has inexplicably been dated for the day after the Euro Final, and therefore Terry would be captain throughout the tournament with the charge hanging over him. 2] As with previous experience, during a tournament, the non-sporting media would steer any conversation around to the charge, and therefore attention would be drawn away from the competition. 3] As before, it appears that Terry refused to step down as captain [which would have been the honourable thing to do, and probably would have improved his public profile] and so the decision was made for him. Terry's form has been questionable this season, and there are probably a few CBs ahead of him in the pecking order and so by removing him from the captaincy, it makes it easier to possibly leave him out of the first eleven, or even the entire squad. Of course, this is something Terry wouldn't want, which probably is the reason why he wouldn't step down himself.
     
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  10. hotbovril

    hotbovril Well-Known Member

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    I agree with you on his form SS but judging by Capello's comments regarding legal process and that it is a civil matter, he still seems to rate him!
     
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  11. devonFRATTONiser

    devonFRATTONiser Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    I heard on BBC World Service this morning that Fab critisised the decision in an interview with italian press, stating he is innocent until proven guilty
     
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  12. fatletiss

    fatletiss Well-Known Member

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    If, and I know it is a ridiculously big if, England did anything at the Euros, it would be hugely embaressing for all, if our Captain was found guilty of racial abuse a matter of days or weeks after winning or rewaching the final. Then there is also the matter of a large athletics competition starting that month over here too.

    All irrelevant I know, as we'll go there all hyped up and get stuffed in the group stages again.
     
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  13. RickieLambertsGoldenBoot

    RickieLambertsGoldenBoot Well-Known Member

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    Don't care in the slightest.

    Terry is a c*** and always will be.

    As for the rest of the England team it is all about money.

    Don't care about internationals.

    Never have and most likely never will.
     
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  14. lamby

    lamby Needs a cold shower

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    Now Capello mu=ight be in breach of his contract for speaking out. Total jokers! Make pompey look well managed!
     
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    Why do we always get some big scandal before every tournament!?
     
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  16. AdamBanana20

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    No one likes John Terry <laugh>.
     
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  17. pass the football

    pass the football Well-Known Member

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    It's crazy, the idea that the FA, who have (rightly) complained about our black players being abused in eastern europe could take someone to a tournament, captain or not, knowing that he could be convicted of using racist language. They should have said at the start he cannot be considered for selection until his trial is over, one way or the other. But for some reason he's considered so influential they didn't have the balls to do it.
     
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  18. OddRiverOakWizards

    OddRiverOakWizards Well-Known Member

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    Because it is in the medias interest to create such a story, it garners a lot of interest. The FA have undermined Capello here, who should have been given some say but instead they panicked. Can you see Spain sacking Aragones or Maradonna being ousted for their outbursts under any other FA, no but we fret about things and in the end lose out. Now people are claiming Capello is in breach of his contract and if they use this to get rid of him it will put the Euros preparation into a worse state.

    The FA have also messed up over the FA Cup allowing the Premier League to have games on the same day, we were discussing how ridiculous this was in August as it would undermine the popularity of the FA Cup, as people would be following and watching Man U etc. So why is it that they only see it now?!
     
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  19. Beef

    Beef Well-Known Member

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    Tbh Terry,Rio,Fat Frank,Cole and Gerrard shouldn't be going anyway. Take the youth and build the team chemistry for the next world cup. <ok>
     
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  20. I J Miggs

    I J Miggs Active Member

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    Tbh Terry,Rio,Fat Frank,Cole and Gerrard shouldn't be going anyway. Take the youth and build the team chemistry for the next world cup.



    THIS
     
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