I'll no doubt be slated on here but 15 goals conceded in 4/5 games is pretty ****ty by anyones standard. Missing from the line ups early on were Agger,Skrtel,Johnson,Reina. Last night they all played bar one and we conceded 3 again. Martin Skrtel is what we are missing in my opinion. Last season he was our only outfield player to play every minute of every league game. Like it or lump it the lad is a big,vital part of our defence.
This isn't a unique opinion. We need to address the problem by actualy playing a starting 11 and investing. We shouldn't get too wrapped up in this though.
ya and bow and I have been on this on one of the other threads but it is something that is a big big problem. I am trying not to be way to over the top negative but I will let valencia a "proper" game if you will show me wrong. Although it isn't the united's, chelsea's we have trouble with over the past two years, it has been the Blackpools, Stokes that have really taken its toll on us.
I don't think we should be worried, the hard work starts now to get some cohesion and communication into the side. The Liverpool way has always been you defend from the front, so the forwards are just as culpable as the defenders for the goals that have been conceded. Kenny has said, the players will be put through the ringer in preparation for Sunderland. Everything else is geared towards that.
Maybe it's not a unique opinion B4F but there are a lot of Martin haters even on this board alone etc. etc. The guy has come on leaps and bounds and is fearless, with Carra almost spotting for him and telling him where to be to fling his body on the line as Carra's body is slowing down. It worked in the second half of last season and it'll work again. I'd be more concerned with a left back than a centre back.
He has improved but I'm one of the doubters. He is good back up to Carra and Agger but would be worried if he was starting every game. I hope I'm wrong and the improvement or return to form is going to continue. He needs to leave other players shirts alone he's like some mad shirt collector trying to rip as many shirts from opponents as possible.
Yeah we need a LB asap. It's clear to me Insua won't be good enough. He's not that bad, but we need better. Cole, Evra, Clichy...Insua. I think Skertle is decent, I am actually more worried about Carraher. He's coming to the end and we need to replace him. Not convinced Kelly is quite ready. He needs games. Having Agger fit would make such a difference.
Ok, I am done expressing my thoughts on this, I feel there is a big problem, many feel there is none and we should have no worries. I hope I am proved wrong, I just want the best for LFC and want us to stop conceding, that is all.
Burn the Skrtel hater Agger and Carra don't work Agger goes half way up the pitch leaving Carra back on his own and a little exposed
As usual it`ll be alright on the night! How are your settled back 4 going to have any game time together when your BOSS doesn`t even know who they are? You have one last pre season game, to have any consistency it`ll be the players from the last match, a defence that shipped yet another 3 goals. Sunderland must be rubbing their hands at the prospect, they could easily double that being a better team. To all you arses that want to say it doesn`t matter it is only for fitness, Kenny doesn`t mind, do you think any other manager would be happy leaking goals and being totally overrun in every first half of games? Head in the sand LFC will struggle to be a top half team this season, on the form they have shown so far.
I'd be inclined to agree with you on a side note : why hasnt Skrtel figured in pre season ? i didnt see any injury announcement
He picked up something, it was announced a while ago, I remember him saying he was trying to be fit for Galatassary but it didn't happen.
A few of the goals conceded on the Malaysia tour shouldn't really be counted. Certainly in the Malaysia XI match, a couple of them were down to goalkeeping errors by the inexperienced Hansen (on one he fumbled a low cross into the path of a striker that he should have left for a defender behind him to clear.) Two of Hull's goals weren't really defensive errors. The first was a deflection, and the second a bit of a speculative long ranger. That being said, a couple we shipped last night can be put down to defensive frailties.
A few of the goals conceded on the Malaysia tour shouldn't really be counted....... what? A goal is a goal, whether it is a belter or a scramble in front of goal. Arsenal's goal shouldn't have counted last year as Reina never makes a mistake like that then.... I have already stated my piece, I want the team to prove me wrong against valencia and show the kinks are at least starting to get worked out. Heck, a beach-ball scored on us! shouldn't have counted but it did, the amount of deflected shots that go in are countless, speculative long-ranger got us into PK's in the FA cup final! it is part and parcel of the game, we need to sort it.
Well, as I said, it was Hansen in goal. He was given 20 minutes for a bit of experience with the senior lads. It was no reflection on what might happen in the PL. The goal I highlighted was a relatively harmless ball across the 6 yard box, as there were no opposition players in there to get on the end of it should it have been left to roll across goal. The only attacker was about 12 yards out, and Hansen parried the ball to him of all people, and hence the goal. It was a pure GK error. Add to this that we were several goals ahead, had made wholesale changes, was one of our first matches for a few months and was a friendly, and you can see why we were a bit rusty. The Valerenga and Hull matches are really the only preseason games we can form a decent judgement from.
Ya, I just get the feeling that even the reserve player mistakes from the first game have carried all the way over, it makes me nervous with the start of the season right around the corner. I know KK and the crew aren't just sitting around letting it happen, just hope it gets resolved soon.
I've been saying this for weeks. Some people just don't seem to want to see it. Make me wrong- I want to be wrong. Our team doing well is more important to me than being right. Just don't keep telling me it's not a problem.
