that it might be an idea to call a halt, albeit temporary, to the constant bashing of various parties on here. I am as guilty as the rest in this respect however potential signings or at least their agents, DO tend to read boards like this to gain valuable intel for their clients. Goodness knows, its going to be hard enough to attract the standard of player we need to rescue the season without them reading a constant barrage on here, OTIB and the like so what say we call a temporary truce. Who's in...?
I must say I agree Prem and I am taking the view that until the transfer window is closed and the dust has settled I shall remain quiet. However I must say this time is the most critical for Bristol City in a very long time and when it's over we can clearly see where the chips may fall. Good luck to Derek.
A forum is a forum, unless it states otherwise e.g WTMS - Statement. Surely? Can see how this works. "Read their forum, seem like a good bunch of fans, and the club are paying me 10k a week plus bonuses".
Whether results get better or worse I will comment. It does not matter to me about folk reading my comments whether they be Lansdown, McInnes or Jody bloody Morris. If they read my comments, it will at least give me some satisfaction to let them know just what I think of them. In reality, fans care. Whereas McInnes nor Morris care a jot - It's a job. A very well paid one.
I cannot believe that postings on a fans forum such as this would sway a potential signing. As Redprintt pointed out, to them it is just a job. To us it's an emotionmal investment. These 2 should not be confused. At the end of the day, whether a player signs is usually down to some mix of the following: 1.Money; 2. League position and potential for career advancement; 3. Chairman and manager's personalities and vision; 4. Geographic location; 5. Money. The fans do not feature in anything. We believe we should but at the end of the day the players are hired hands with mouths to feed and Bentley's to pay for. They don't care what we think.
Well if you google bristol city forums were underneath the otib so yes if players were looking they would he'd this forum. To be fair this forum is a hell of a lot more positive than the otib!
People, don't be so naive, OF COURSE PLAYERS CONSIDERING SIGNING FOR US LOOK AT THESE FORUMS, you only have to look at the number of "guests" on at the bottom of the page on new posts.... Redprintt - I am not talking about the existing staff, I am talking about POTENTIAL NEW PLAYERS - everyone knows what you and I think on that subject and by the way, you won't be surprised to hear that I dsagree with you about DM. I think that the success of this project (and therefore BCFC) is very important to him as like me, I doubt he considers failure an option. I didnt say don't comment on anything but I did ask that you do the club that you supposedly support a favour and don't do anything that will jepordise any potential new signings, is that too much to ask....?
Unless a site is being run for purpose like Forza Eastend - when the moon shines all types of thought shoulde be welcome paerrticularly when manager and players are faillng. If players and agents want a true picture they should visit any away match or the gate. That would be decent enough idea of city fans as being an ok bunch noisier than others in the division. Doubt agents and players would ever base anything on a forum v the cash.
The only way we are going to get out of this mess is to pull together Lets get right behind the team on the pitch - remember the GJ run of losses and the games against Bradford and Swansea - it worked then
Is it necessarily a bad thing that a player knows how frustrated the fans are? If I were a young player like Nick Powell, who has Football League experience, is touted as a top future talent and is very sure of myself I'd rather play in a team where I am guaranteed games and where the fans will look towards me to be the saviour of their entire season.
I think most players are wise enough to know that every club has fickle fans. Some (our club) more so than others. The boo boys by their very nature tend to be more vocal and are also very active on forums. These guys consider themselves to be football experts and therefore feel the need to tell everyone else what is wrong and how to fix it. That's not to say all forum users are moaners. Most forums do have a mix of opinion and that is healthy... but players almost certainly don't base their decision on how happy the fans are... because most will know how quickly that can change. I do think the more positive fans amongst us need to start making our voices heard. I'll support City whatever league we are in. Deep down so will most of the boo boys. CTID. Win, lose or draw... (a win would be nice though! )
'do the club that you supposedly support' I supposedly support ? - What are you like ? Listen to yourself - Who are you to judge -I can't support City because I don't agree with Prem's view. Pompous fool.
If you look at some of the other not606 boards, like Barnsley and Derby, there is hardly a comment on them from one month to the next. I wouldnt want to join them as a player as clearly they dont care about their teams. I think our board shows how passionate we are. Why dont we all join that twitter thing and then we can send messages to players we like the look of, asking them to come and join BCFC. Steve D gets lots of messages everyday telling him he is their favourite player. It cant do any harm.
My opinion is that City fans are a solid bunch. Gates are not prone to the same fluctuations as other clubs. There is a real community spirit amongst a section of support around West streets pubs. end of season BS3 celebrations based on nothing other than being fans of show support in a good light. Fickle? No way. Partisan, passionate and earthy describes the ones I meet year upon year on trains and private coaches. Vocally Ashton Gate is way above Barnsley, Bolton , Forest and more this season. Fans are milder these days. As I see it forums are a means of catharsis. They effect virtually nothing, unless they have a pro-active membership and shared ideas on how to achieve aims. Silly this idea of players won't join because of forums [boo hoo!].
Do you know when I read your first response, pompous ass was the first comment that spring to my mind about you "King Redprintt will honour us with yet another tirade" but I withheld it because I thought there would be no point in being rude when I was trying to work with you to the benefit of the club and to get you onside with the concept. Who said anything about you having to agree with me, I just asked EVERYONE to do their bit in respect of anything that MIGHT possibly not prevent new players from coming to the club. I see now that that this was wasted, you don't care about anything other than Redprintt and **** anyone else. My original thought that you are so far up your own ass that you need a torch to see anything has proved to be correct...
You under estimate the power of social media - In this day and age where anyone under the age of 30 is obessed with Facebook and now Twitter, sites like this will become an important reference point for players who if my experience of any of our youngsters at work is anything to go by, live on the bloody thing all the time Watch how many "guests" there are (bottom of the page) after a few articles have been posted after another battering on a Saturday, some of these are undoubtedly the players looking to see what those nasty ****ers are saying about them this time and justified or not, you can be sure that this alienates some who will tell their mates (e.g. Sam Baldock and Liam Kelly from Kilmarnock) that don't come here because they are a nasty bunch If you went to the game on Saturday, you will have seen evidence of this when at one point, "what a load of rubbish" could easily have turned into something quite nasty if the players hadn't re-thought their plan to come over and acknowledge us... Yes of course money dictates but some young players are "soft" these days and we have a bigger part to play than you may think...
Clubs get what they sow. Bristol City want a consumer orientated culture around the place. So when its product goes tits up the consumer orientated fans moan. Bristol City fans are by no means the worst, far from it. The way of changing that is by endeavouring to build better relationships with fans, stop treating them like mugs. Fans and club should have shared beliefs, there should be a concrete relationship there. Supporters should viewed as participatory, they are not. BCFC are more interested in selling over priced merch and family experiences than creating noisy positive support.
