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Harry going down?

Discussion in 'Charlton' started by typical, Nov 18, 2011.

  1. typical

    typical Well-Known Member

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    There are things in football that I find more distasteful than racism which the English FA seem to have purposely overlooked and that is greed and corruption in OUR game. And top of that list for dody dealings for quite some time has been Harry Rednapp. If the FA and English media want the world to accept that Sepp Blatter might be the wrong figurehead for an organsiation, then is Harry really the best man for the England job.

    He is up for trial next year and I hope that justice is seen to be done. Tax evasion is a vile thieving offence and my understanding is that the Inland Revenue do not prosecute unless they have a 90% certainty of getting a conviction, so it kind of suggests to me that they have got the goods on Harry.

    I also wonder if Harry is starting his mitigation already. I wonder how many Cardiologist would recommend stenting surgery unless the patient has had a heart attack first? I read somewhere that a fith of all 60+ males particularly red faced heavy drinking ones could do with stenting of the arteries as it is a very simple operation. I think its all very convenient that Harry has had this surgery now.
     
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    My money is on 'Onest 'Arry getting a "Not Guilty"
     
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    Course he will. He is doing the dying swan bit now to sway the jury, and I can see him turning up on a drip and with a Doctor at his side.

    The man is guilty as sin.
     
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    Ken Dodd got a "Not Guilty" despite overwhelming evidence of his guilt of similar offences. Sometimes it's who you are that counts. Ask Steven Gerrard.
     
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    I'd love to see a non-celebrity use the Stevie G 'I hit him on the off chance he was going to hit me' defense, I believe they would get laughed out of court!

    I agree with Typical that HMRC are unlikely to take him to court unless they have a watertight case (and with the public eye on this I'd imagine they have been extra diligent) but you never know how those 12 on the jury will react.

    Interesting question - will they take into account the football teams the jury members support?
     
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    Can't imagine 'Onest 'Arry's lawyer allowing any Southampton fans on the jury!
     
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    Arry recently said that Scott Parker being at Wet Spam was the making of him as a footballer!

    Yes Arry, the fact that Scott was on the verge of making the England team for Portugal 2004 (an opportunity which his stay at Chelsea ruined) when he left us means that Charlton had NOTHING to do with his development!

    What a NUMPTY!
     
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    Cant stand fingers `Arry never could,i`d love it just love if he got banged up....GUILTY
     
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    Why is it that the BBC website today is full of Harry for England and how he is the best man for the job. I wonder if they are being objectively fair?

    Not a single word about his court case in January. Double standards and badly focussed when they cannot mention JT without calling him up for something that he is not been charged in a courtroom for. Whats is the bigger story here?
     
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    Saw that myself too AllHell and it angered me quite a bit, CAFC made him the player he is today, moving to Chelsea slowed down his development and moving to West Ham brought him back to the spotlight.
     
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    It's strange, yes.

    Very good PR by Redknapp. I don't understand why the BBC are at it though.
     
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    I believe that it's perfectly alright to be a millionaire thief but not an knee jerk reactionist. This pisses me off incredibly the country is starving to death and it's ok to steal but not call anyone a black ****
     
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    Why would anyone call Onest Arry a black ****?
     
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    Typical-Why do you feel the need to rate racism next to tax evasion? I agree that if he is found guilty he should never have the England job and hopefully will serve some time, while the country is going to hell in a bucket, rich people refusing to contribute stinks. However that doesn't make it OK to say racist things. Both things are wrong and yet again you do your main argument, great harm with your other agenda.
     
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    It's clear that you have missed the point. Perhaps purposefully or maybe ignorantly or even in a bovril induced haze. I employ no agenda but that of equality, and proportionality. I merely wonder why all the fuss is about a comment made against a player that is black, when he is black ( as if it is handicap) and by all accounts I have heard and having met him is a prize **** In my book terry made fair comment. Now It seems to me, it can all be forgotten in a bar or a carpark. I wonder if the roles were reversed would it even make the back pages of shoot? Double standards and lack of proportion me thinks.

    I am not being racist but a realist, trying to fathom some sense into an unfair world where the rich steal from the poor and no paper or media run with the story but rather pamper to the middle classes and their hyper sensitivities and go for a nothing story. Titus bramble anyone?
     
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    I don't care what you or John Terry think of Ferdinand relating what he thinks of him to his ethnicity makes it racist if you think that was fair comment it makes you racist too.
    I am also confused by the idea that only the middle classes are concerned by racism, in my experience there are as many racists in the middle classes as anywhere else. I believe that the reference to bovril is an allusion to my social class or possibly age. You don't know me, only some of my views.
    If Harry has been fiddling his taxes I find that despicable because, apparently we're all in it together and I'm paying my taxes and I agree that for some reason Harry is a darling of the press and that he'll probably get off because people like him often do.
    I still don't want the England captain to be racist because I don't think it sends a good message and think it is reasonably for the press to cover the story.
    If this story was to pander to the middle classes I take it wasn't covered in the red top tabloids?
     
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    How do you know what the intent was behind his alleged comment? Do you think he is not entitled to a knee jerk reaction in a accurately descriptive way? Does that make him racist? Does the comment merit nothing more than a handshake or a beer. But no, Ferdinand the scheming little **** wants to cause trouble and cry racist his way into the England set up. Why does it not fall under the grey area of professionalism? The post was written as a critique of the media who prefer to crucify a reaction rather than a pre mediditated and carefully planned fraud (both unproven) of course.

    Why? because it's easy to create a monster than kill an existing one. I have no interest in protecting Jt but just want to see proportionality in the media. I cannot abide all this middle class arse twitching over racism when it exists in much bigger things that football and goes unspoken and unchecked. If I fit your stereotype of a racist then whoopey do. The harsh reality is that Jt is being set up here.
     
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    The fallout of the claims against Redknapp, if proven, will be far greater than that of everything Terry has done put together. <ok>
     
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    Why is it middle class to have a problem with racism? Yes it exists elsewhere and should be dealt with there too.

    Yes it falls under the area of professionalism. Terry was not professional and should step down as England captain.

    You have a good argument regarding the coverage of Rednapp, but you might as well have said Robbie Savage is getting too much coverage for his dancing. You didn't, for the second thread running, you chose to bring race into it.

    I don't deal in stereotypes only in facts and in this instance you said something I believe to be racist was fair comment.

    Who is it you believe is setting Terry up?
     
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