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happy 4th of july but..... you've caught the m'erican disease. If you'd lost your little war you'd not be great anything mark ii.. thats the team USA attitute.. no you'd be canada lite
We should let the f**king bankers fight them, then! Let them earn those bloated pay checks* . *Apologies for the spelling, but it is, after all, a yank thread!
Is there something important about today? Have we signed someone? Happy 4th July to Bluff and all our other colonial cousins. Note: When I first typed this I accidentally held shift as I hit the 4 so it came out as "Happy $th July". Somehow it looked so right.
Typical Yanks! The ONLY reason they won was because we made a mistake and split our forces. No dint of great American generalship just loads of bloody good fortune and a good PR machine!! - been the same ever since! Anyway happy 4th
True that mate, and you know, you can't fight wars without money... If the rules of war said Bankers and politicians had to be in the first wave of an attack, how many wars would you think there would have been Also, the Romans professionalising the army, that too, before that the rich folk did the dying. It's old men thinking of ways for young men to die
conversely you can't keep innovating without clearing inventory and a good little war can use up all the older ordinance in stock... self interest and desire to make money can start wars however the history of warfare woudl actually suggest pre roman era most deaths were actually poor idiots with no armor... for example... Yet the athenian citizen you become a hoplite and have the bronze hoplon shield, sword, helmet and greaves and have a good chance of surviving but we only need look at the armies of for example peria to see the majority would wander about with wicker shields or in effect be a peasent army and thus they were "cannon fodder" if you forgive the historical mashing of metaphors. the poor always get it in the neck.. one might even go so far as to say that the Spartans predated rome by several hundred years or then alexanders companion cavalry or the Persian invincible. but all had huge ancillary armies that skirmished and died while the rich blokes didn't in short be rich or don't fight.
not creating a thread for this.. I was just saying over a week ago on my TSA groping thread that the airport scanners are a false sense of security and that we'll all be forced to go through them soon. Well now, if you are going to the US, you have to go through one, no choice. A certain mod took it upon himself to mock me for such claims
I was talking about Rome, in Rome if you were not equestrian you could not fight, if you were not a noble you could not fight, if you could not afford a horse and armour you could not fight. Rome was the first to make it a professional career, that's just historical fact. There are probably many many cases of nobility using peasants as fodder pre-roman times. being forced to fight in a monarchy is nothing even remotely like serving in a republic or "democracy". Romans who could not fight were not like persian slaves with wicker, they were Roman citizens who just did not have the cash to arm themselves to fight in the way battle was fought by Roman Nobles at that time. None of those mentioned above were professional armies, Sparta was a militarised society, choice never came into it. They prepared for war and made everything themselves, money never came into it at all as far as a soldier equipping himself, it still was not professional it was not a matter of choice and not a career, I mean that is patently obvious if one is aware of their history, even vaguely. Same with Alexanders armies. The Greeks, an army of tradesmen, not peasants, they could make much of their own shields and armour and weapons. Again not similar to the Roman system at all. They were not professional even though they had an advanced society, serving was a choice but it was not a career, when fighting was over, back to being a blacksmith you went or a potter. Modern warfare, all of it, funded by banks, Every modern war required a constant stream of money, where does money come from, banks. Who owned the banks, bankers. I am sure the US UK and European banks that funded the Nazis were not thinking of using up old kit in order to make money replacing it too Funny how the history books leave all that **** out, how they do not mention the prominent figures from Europe and the US that backed Hitler's Nazis either. Without that funding and support, which began in the 30s, Hitler would never have been able to achieve what he did. The sinews of war is infinite money, Cicero. Bankers have the cash, they fund the wars. how do you think the last three modern wars were fought, by printing money out of nothing to pay for it and taking the gold and oil to back that money printed out of nothing. use worthless paper to fund the war and take back real tangible resources like gold and oil and anything else you can. if a government can print money out of nothing it need not ask it's population if it can go to war.
