After Saturday's victory, I posted a comment where I stated that I was getting the feeling that some of our fans would have preferred that we had lost so that the "Bruce out" drive would gather momentum. I got a little bit of stick from some quarters for suggesting this, with some stating that I was doing nothing more than having a cheap swipe at the BOBS in our ranks. However, that was really not my intention at all, but rather stating that I felt that for some they would rather we lost if it was to hasten Bruce's exit... I always feel that 'in general' posters tend to shoot from the hip on match days, and are more forthright with their opinions after a couple of days later, so how do you all feel now about our weekend victory?
Any away victory in the Prem is something to celebrate that said. This season as a whole I can see why Bruce is coming under a bit of flack. Has he been poor enough to go? Not for me but improvement in results is still required. Wasn't it great to see Mick Mack vilified by his fans for his double substitution!!! Only for said subs to totally change the game and gain an unlikely point.
I'm happy and relieved to have a victory, hopefully with a couple more to follow in the coming weeks. I'm the same as yourself - over the years we've seen a multitude of managers come and go. Good, bad, and ugly .. But the bottom line is we want the team to win ..
i'm happy was a brilliant day out and class atmosphere when we scored. it does little to change my opinion of bruce. they were a poor team and have a terrible home record. he needs 5/6 steady games for him to even come close to getting me back on side
My eldest lad was there but I couldn't make it, but the Sunderland fans did sound fantastic on the radio...
Guess you know my views and I can understand the dissatisfaction with Bruce, some of his tactics and above all the things he says. My view all along is we have him here as manager like it or not so it seems better to back him and the team. It helps to me that he seems a nice man with his heart in the right place, to have a **** making some errors would be far worse. My view is and always will be that to be defeatist before a game is wrong, hope for the best and who kmows what may happen.
If he gets us mid table again this season, even the same next season, ok. Good job done by Bruce. But to kick on I think we will eventually need another manager. x
I am still very much in the Bruce has to go camp. One good 45 mins in a 9 month slump doesn't alter that. Let's not forget, Saturdays change of formation and tactics has been forced on Bruce and he has done so kicking and screaming. He has had a right pop at the fans for not being happy with 9 months of utter garbage and then realising his error, has tried to build bridges by praising us now. Embarrassing. If I honestly thought he could do it I'd change course but I don't. He will **** about with the team again at some point, if not this Saturday then certainly v utd the week after and instead of learning from his errors, I get the feeling he won't be able resist going back to 1 up front as soon as he thinks we are not looking. **** ups in the transfer market regarding failure to address key areas of weaknesses, the bent and Gyan affair and failure to plan or react to situations has damaged his reputation in my eyes. There was a time over the summer I decided I would wipe the slate clean and was prepared to give him a second chance but he has failed miserably this campaign to impress me and then of course there is the obvious gripe. His utter failure in the derby games. 3 attempts and 3 complete **** ups. A 5-1 thrashing 12 months ago this weekend, a last gasp rescue act in march and then that pile of ****e in august. Whatever the reason each of us chooses to take for those failures and I still maintain he is effecting these games on purpose, the fact remains his black and white first love has clouded the issue. I said 2.5 years ago on his appointment that it wouldn't surface until the derby games and he would be judged by them. 3 down and its a damaging verdict for Bruce. Saturday was a welcome relief from a poor campaign but it doesn't alter my feelings about him now at all. It's gone too far for me. I want him out as much this morning as I did on Saturday morning and would still appoint Martin o Neill in a flash. Bruce will not deliver long term imo and I feel extremely frustrated that we are just treading water each week with him just saving his neck when he has too but with the club no better off at all. 100% Bruce out for me and the sooner the better.
very hard not to agree with all of that cest loads of idiots now in the bruce in camp after 1 45 mins. first 45 mins we were utter ****e. 2 of the worst teams i've ever seen in the first 45!
It is amazing what a win does to your confidence, look at Cest , before the Bolton game he was posting that we are certain to get relagated, not maybe but certain. After the good win he is now saying that we have a great chance of being top dogs in the north east this season. So does he think we are going to finish 3rd bottom or even 2nd bottom but with the black and whites below us or has he seen something over the weekend that makes him think it is not as bad as He thought it was ??????????????????????????????????
Well, if nothing else, it's given us some relief from the gloom. That, in itself, has to be good. What did it change? - nothing at all. At 2pm Saturday, we'd won 4 out of 22. At 5pm Saturday, we'd won 5 out of 23. It's still an abysmal record, and I'm ashamed that we're still employing Steve Bruce. But hey, we've only had 5 opportunities to feel good in months. Let's all enjoy the week. Sod it.
Sorry pal but that thread was a total wind up for the mags who bit wonderfully all day. Anyone who knows my past knows I like a bit of badger bating now and again. My genuine thoughts are still the same. We will be very lucky if Bruce doesn't relegate us this season and I'll make yet a bet. We will be back to a 1 up front formation before November is out, when he thinks we are not looking again. Mr negative tactics, Mr clueless and Mr scared of his own shadow, live long in Bruces make up. That hasn't changed at all from 45 good minutes of football and a win. If he stays we will amount to **** all imo. If we could replace him with Martin o Neill, or a similar high profile manager, we may yet make an impression in this league.
I'd swap SAF for our tube anytime you want and that argument is embarrassing you Cyprus. If Bruce had delivered the same success over 20 years as SAF then I'd happily forgive him a Derby horror show. Unfortunately, our own derby horror show has been and gone with **** all else in return.
Could nt agree more Cest...certainly if not next week to curb Bent..he will almost certainly abandon 4-4-2 against United in a pathetic attempt to keep the score below 5 !!!
Come on Cest, it was a joke just like your continued assertions that Bruce threw the Scum games. If I thought that for a second we could win the league and I'd still want rid of him. It's a total personal insult to the man, a bloke even you keep saying seems like a decent sought. Your opinions change like the wind these days. For the record we won't be anywhere near relegation. Bruce won't be sacked, We will finish above Newcastle. I've held these views since before the Liverpool game and nothing has changed even if the Toon are playing well above their station at present. It wont last. (Just my opinions of course).
Biffa, this weekend showed what can be achieved by using attack as your best defensive formation. I'd sooner go to old trafford and have a go, even if we lose, rather than go there and not even try and still get beat anyway. Bruce is boring, nervous and afraid to attack. His teams reflect this as does his record
