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Hamilton to Red Bull?

Discussion in 'Formula 1' started by Canary f1, Mar 15, 2011.

  1. Canary f1

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    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...Laren-fail-deliver-says-Christian-Horner.html

    Obviously this is not any kind of proof and Horner could just be trying to unsettle Mclaren, after all Horner would only be mirroring Whitmarsh's antics last season with all the cheating accusations etc.

    However, to me in a way it shows Red Bull would be interested in Hamilton. They would never come out and just say it, but behind the lines I sense they would be tempted if Hamilton expressed an interest. I'm sure Hamilton's new manager Fuller would be a man that could really help make it happen.

    Would Lewis leave Mclaren? Well we know he wants to win more titles and Mclaren appear to have stumbled out of the starting blocks for a third year running. I think he could leave if things don't improve.

    Hamilton is worth millions in advertising and is guaranteed to deliver race wins and amazing performances. The prospect of Vettel and Hamilton in the same team is mouth watering and quite possibly the fastest driver pairing on the grid.

    Should Hamilton leave? Well that is the question. Sure Red Bull are dominant now but f1 changes quickly. There are new regs in 2013, maybe Red Bull will struggle to adapt to them and Mclaren could become the dominant team again? It would be a disaster for Hamilton to leave Mclaren for Red bull only for the form of the respective teams to switch the other way.

    I think he should stay at Mclaren. I think they will come good again in the not too distant future, maybe even this season.
     
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  2. cosicave

    cosicave Well-Known Member

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    An interesting question Canary. This is why drivers need good managers isn't it? There are so many unknowns which can affect one's career. - I promise you, I'm speaking from experience!

    I speculate that Vettel's management will go to great lengths to avoid a pairing with Hamilton (unfortunately) whilst I sincerely believe Hamilton doesn't give two hoots who he's teamed with, and would probably relish another partnership with Alonso - who will also avoid him at all cost!
     
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  3. Nick HCAFC

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    Hamilton will leave Mclaren sooner or later, and most likely go to the place which offers the most money. It's not very often that a driver spends his entire career at one team, anybody competitive like this usually wants a new challenge eventually.
     
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  4. Forza Bianchi

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    If McLaren keep delivering average cars, Lewis will probably get fed up and leave. The only problem for him would be adjusting to Red Bull. Horner has made it clear that Red Bull are building their team around Vettel.

    It's possible that Horner's comments about a Vettel-Hamilton line up was simply a warning message to Webber.
     
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  5. El_Bando

    El_Bando Can't remember, where was I?
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    A new challenge is what Lewis needs. There has been too much who-har around at mclaren during his time
     
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  6. u408379965

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    Maybe even a warning to Buemi, Alguersuari, Ricciardo and Verne. Toro Rosso is supposed to groom drivers for the main team, but neither look like cutting it at the moment. Personally I think Buemi would make a decent number two, he's consistent without being blisteringly quick. I think Ricciardo will end up getting the seat though, he'll drive the STR next season (maybe even part of this) and Webber will retire at the end of next season.
     
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  7. Forza Bianchi

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    But thats the thing - he's average at best. There's no way he deserves a seat at Red Bull. He's never shown any signs of being good under pressure, good at overtaking, kind on his tyres, or having good drives occasionally. There's nothing about him that stands out.

    I thought Buemi was on his last chance this season at Torro Rosso, with Ricciardo next in line to replace him.
     
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  8. El_Bando

    El_Bando Can't remember, where was I?
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    so are you saying he's ****?
     
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  9. u408379965

    u408379965 Well-Known Member

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    He reminds me of Massa before he moved to Ferrari. Is he more deserving of the seat than the likes of Hamilton, Kubica etc? No of course he isn't. But it isn't Red Bull's job to be charitable, their job is to win championships, and I think having an established first driver to go for the Drivers' Championship and a second driver to collect good points for the Constructor is the best way to go, rather than having two of the best drivers on the grid scrapping with each other. McLaren are the best case in point, for me their Hamilton-Alonso pairing wasn't as effective as the Hamilton-Kovalainen one. Alonso is obviously in a different league to Kovi, but sometimes the team is greater than the sum of its parts.
     
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  10. nh-f1

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    Hamilton should leave it til after the 2013 season, when the rules change yet again. I did hear rumours that Mclaren, another team that I can't remember, and obviously Williams that believe the rule changes could work for them. Them changes will make it much harder, and the teams at the back and unsuccessful mid field runners could plan early in 2012. The way I see it is, why move for the 2012 championship and have a very very strong chance of winning a title than staying put at Mclaren and have the chance to win many titles in the future?
     
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  11. El_Bando

    El_Bando Can't remember, where was I?
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    but the Alonso-Hamilton pairing scored more points than the Hamilton-kovalainen duo.. ok given that they were all taken away in the end.
     
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  12. u408379965

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    Hamilton-Kovalainen delivered a title.

    I just don't think having two top drivers in the same team works out as well as it looks on paper. I love it as a fan, it delivers some brilliant talking points and adds a new dynamic to the situation, but if I was a team principal it isn't the kind of setup I'd want; too much aggro, as Horner found out with Vettel-Webber last season.
     
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  13. El_Bando

    El_Bando Can't remember, where was I?
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    maybe but with webber and Vettel they are both prooven winners and were both title contenders to the last race... and the end result was the double (WDC & WCC). Kovi was never a title contender and didnt produce great results and Mclaren only scrapped a WDC and havnt won a WCC since 1998 and before then 1991. McLarens current driver lineup is ideal but now they dont have the car to deliver.
     
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  14. Canary f1

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    I agree, Hamilton would relish the challenge against Vettel or Alonso again.

    Personally I would love to see Alonso and Hamilton in the same team again, I doubt it would ever happen but imagine the excitement!

    There are some people that think the MP4-26 has bags of potential and once Mclaren sort out the reliability issue the performance will be up there with Ferrari and RB. I believe Mclaren must have seen something heartening in the design process that made them go down this more radical development path. Unfortunately they have suffered some unexpected reliability issues which have prevented them from focusing on improving the performance which Mclaren fans hope is there!
     
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  15. u408379965

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    It all depends on how long it takes them to drag it back, and how well the drivers can limit the damage in the meantime. If they don't get their **** together quick they could be out of it by Monaco.
     
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    Last year Mclaren were lucky that Red Bull had poor reliability and bad luck, and the odd driver error early in the season. Without that I dread to think how many more points they would have scored.
     
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