Great game and very happy with the result - My thought on the Liverpool game

I'm well pleased with the result. We didn't create too many chances, but to go on and get the result after going down to 10 men against Liverpool side was excellent.

I'm pleased for Dummet. It's great to have a great, versatile home grown player. The lad didn't look at all out of place in the side today.

Williamson was good apart from a few sloppy bits. All credit too him. He's looks like he's been bulking and put on some weight. He beats most people in the air and is definitely our best tough CB now. He's ahead of Saylor for me.

I feel sorry for Mbiwa. Tiote, despite being good, made a bad mistake. He should have stayed down and Mbiwa had to pay for it.

For me, it was a dive. There was contact from Mbiwa but it didn't at all stop Suarez taking a shot, and Suarez threw himself to the ground like he'd been elbowed by a Gorilla. ****ing ***got.

Ratings -

Krul - 8 - **** kicking, but great saves to keep us in the game.

Debuchy - 7.5 - Good game. Defended well and went forward and supported the attacks.

Mbiwa - n/a - Unfortunate to get sent off IMO.

Willo - 8 - Solid.

Dummet - 8 - Great 2nd half performance and good finish for the goal.

Santon - 7.5 - Good defending and good all round performance.

Tiote - 8 - I know he was at fault for the goal but I think he played well despite his mistakes. He did very well as a captain. He does what our other captains don't and defends our players, makes his voice heard and marshals the players. He made some great tackles and should have done better when he dispossessed that player up the pitch.

Cabaye - 8 - Great goal and good performance. Some great passes that unfortunately weren't read by our forwards.

Gouff - 8.5 - My man of the match. He won us so much possession, brilliant work rate and had such an effect on the game. I think the game would have been different if he wasn't played.

Ben Arfa - 4 - Passenger for most of the game. Don't know what he was doing as a ST, but I think his plan was to give it to Ben Arfa and have Remy make late runs to finish off moves.

Remy - 5 - Not a good game, but some good work.

Anita - n/a - Not great, but helped seal out the game.

Sammy - n/a - Got us up the pitch, won some headers late on. Decent.

MOTM - Gouff for me.

 

Unfortunate? Sorry but it was crap from Mbiwa. He did not have to pull him down. Not his fault to get into that position but once there you don't do that if you have a brain in your head. Hurt his team. If we concede a goal fair enough, but you can't afford the double whammy. Poor lad is really struggling. We have Colo to come back, Saylor on his way and young Dummett has thrown his hand up. That should allow Mapou time to adapt.

Rest of the marks about right. Remy didn't look fit

 

Just said on another thread but will say again that I don't agree Tiote at fault for penalty.

He was hurt and so was down. Ref hadn't stopped game. Where he was he was playing everyone onside. Therefore he got up and moved forward. How did that play any part in M'Biwa allowing Suarez to get onto his "wrong" side and then also tugging at him?

Do agree that most/all players go down as soon as there is any contact and Suarez went down today when if M'Biwa had touched him like that in the street there is no way he would have fallen. About time referees only gave penalties when the contact is such that it genuinely impedes the attacker. Part the problem is that the so called experts always get this wrong claiming the attacker is "entitled" to go down when there is contact regardless as to whether the "contact" is sufficient to be a foul.

 

I don't think it was Cheicks fault but Mbiwa clearly wasn't aware Tiote hadn't got back onside and tried to play Suarez off. He would have been. I think him getting in is just unfortunate but Mbiwa didn't need to do what he did. It was moronic. Definite pen for me, I couldn't be sure as I haven't seen since I got in but he appeared to pull his shoulder. Whether he goes down or not is irrelevant to me, he impeded him. At least that's what it looked like from where I was.

 

Tugging? It was an arm on the shoulder. If you watch the replay tonight, you'll see Suarez threw himself to the ground and made it look like Mbiwa pulled him.

When Tiote saw that he was playing everyone onside, he shouldn't have tried to get back in front of the line because it's obvious that Liverpool would have spotted Tiote running back, and use it to their advantage. Tiote should have stayed behind the line and watched Suarez until it was safe to try and rejoin the line. You could also blame the entire back line for not reacting and maintaining a high line while a player was back injured, but if Tiote used his brain he'd have stayed behind the line until we had the ball back or until it an obvious ball over the top wasn't an option for Liverpool.

Mbiwa was just holding his line and Suarez would have been offside if it wasn't for Tiote.

 

Yanga has to take responsibility for his mistake, 11 vs 11 we looked like the better team and Krul may have saved the shot from that angle, Debuchy had his best game I have seen in a black and white shirt and for me was our MOTM, though Gouffran and cabaye where close behind.
Great for Dummy to get a goal and cabayes was sensational. Not convinced with Sammy over Cisse at the end and if Pardew had made one of the subs 10 mins earlier it could have put Liverpool off their stride before equalising... But for a game I'm sure most would have settled for a point before the game, and after the red card I was very worried, a good point and performance to take into the Derby.

 

Right just watched this having recorded the game, it is completely stone wall. Tugs at shoulder while going the other side of him and completely interferes with his momentum bringing him down. You'd have to have your eyes painted black and white to see it any other way.

Having watched it all, just the goals. On the flipside nice to see us score from a crossed dead ball, class from Dummy. What a strike from Cabaye. Ball moved all over. I was side on so it looked feeble keeping from that range but was it ****. Them balls are ridiculous mind.

 

Sorry, but I saw it differently. From behind the goal it looks stone wall. But the angle facing the gallowgate it's obvious Suarez made it look way worse than it was.

 

This.
Unfortunately Mbiwa gave Suarez the option to go down and the ref the option to send him off.
Not too different to the Taylor Man City red card. In the real world the guy would never go down, but on the pitch he's out cold.
After seeing Liverpool's quality last ditch defending, sometimes I think our defenders are trained by this guy

 

Have you watched it since getting in Tash? Suarez is a **** and I'd love to have a good whinge but he blatantly pulls him down. To be honest it reminds me of a Saylor type foul where he just can't help himself, he even does the Saylor leap in the air as he does it. Probably the easiest pen decision a ref will get, has to go too. The more I see it, the worse it gets. Suarez obviously adds his bit of dramatic effect, but there is no getting away from it for me.

I never really noticed all this aftermath. Mapou seems to be hanging around in the forlorn hope of a reprieve. I wondered why it took so long to get on with the pen.

 

It's a definite penalty. No argument. Got on the wrong side, pulled his shoulder and impacted his run. Yes Suarez made the most of it, but he always will. Doesn't mean this one wasn't legit.

You could argue that Gerrard should have had a second yellow - even if the first one was a bit soft, his second offence wasn't yet he got away with it because he's Steven Gerrard. Would have made it very interesting.

Overall, a great shift from the lads. HBA needs to be either out wide, or have a 'free role' in the number 10 position, behind a central striker - not up front by himself. But, fair play to Pards for experimenting with what felt like a fairly attacking team.

Cisse will struggle to break in now I think. Even if Remy looked a bit off the pace, he still poses a greater threat to the opposition.

Le Gouf put in a great shift again. Cabaye was awesome. Sissoko worked well until taken off. A bit harsh on him, but bringing Dummett on was essential - and what a game he had!

Debuchy did really well, Santon was solid, hell even Willo did the job. Krul made so e important saves, yet again.

Pards must be pleased with the overall attitude and effort today.

 

Imagine if we'd got Bony. All this side is missing is a front man who can make it stick. Hope Pards doesn't fall into the trap of moving Remy central just because no one else can play there. Well suited to the left.

 

Yeah, or if we'd beaten Everton to Lukaku.

Oops. Careful, Tash is about to explode.

 

Gerrard should have been off in my opinion, but he wasn't pulling the strings the way he normally does. We must have been doing something right.

 

We would have won today if we hadn't gone down to 10 ten.
Suarez will always go down whether it's a tug or a hand on shoulder, Mbiwa very unlucky.
Thought the whole team stuck to the task.
Gouffran tracking back and tackling well was excellent, also thought Tiote was good today.

 

Tiote was better again today. But he still scares me to death with some his dallying on the ball and oases to marked defenders.

 

Mbiwa just highlights a real poor piece of business who is out of his depth.
Cracking result and a second hAlf performance which should grit something we have lacked.
Anyway now on to the big one a game in which anything worse then a draw would be a disaster

 

Thought he didn't dally today but I know what you mean.
Dummett impressed.
I honestly thought when we went down to 10 men the goals would rain in for Liverpool but all the lads dug deep.

 

Me too. Feared the worst, but they did really well.

 

Saw it at half time and have to say wow at some of the responses here, to me having seen the replay at half time it was a coming together and Suarez conned the referee to give the penalty. Also thought that Remy went down very easily to try and get Gerrard sent off.