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Great article on the current situation - by Daniel Storey of Football365

Discussion in 'Southampton' started by - Doing The Lambert Walk, Oct 31, 2012.

  1. - Doing The Lambert Walk

    - Doing The Lambert Walk Well-Known Member

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  2. Joe!

    Joe! Well-Known Member

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    This very accurately reflects my feelings.
     
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  3. gomarchingin

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    What was I saying about transfers ?
    This tells us nothing we don't know already to be honest , we would in the Championship by now without him and Lambert got us there by scoring the goals .
    Adkins tactical decisions have been that bad nearly all supporters have been united on them .
    That takes dine doing :
     
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    saintkitch Well-Known Member

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    How is that a great article. its a bloke who knows very little about southampton fc jumping on the young english manager band wagon. To say jayrod is seriously overpriced at 6 mill shows how little research this guy has actually done.
     
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  5. Qwerty

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    I don't agree with all of it but the general point is "remember who got us here in the first place". That said I don't want Nigel to stay because he did a great job in the last two years, I want him to stay because he is the man to turn us around. Still 29 games to go, oh and our next twelve games are against every team currently below 6th except West Ham.
     
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  6. pass the football

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    It's a pretty fair assessment, though I agree it's a bit early to write Rodriguez off!
     
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  7. SAINTDON13

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    Can't argue with it, most of, us if asked, would have come up with the same story. A victim of a rapid success, we have been spoilt over the last couple of Seasons, now the tide has turned unfavourably, we get a gang of Internet bullies, baying for blood, mostly without seriously considering the results of their actions. It isn't that we don't want continued success, but few of us had any delusions that the Premier was going to be the toughest thing that has happened to us in years. When we were on the verge of destruction, how many even imagined what would happen in the last three years. It is time to step back and take stock. We could not have asked for a tougher start to the Season,the fixture list has been very lop sided, so maybe it will level off a bit now and at least we could get some results which would put a whole new perspective to the Season. Lessons are being learnt and hopefully addressed, the next time you are moved to posting vitriol, ask yourself, will it help the situation? If it won't make any difference, don't bother, try a different tack, say how you think things could be improved, express your opinion, fine but at least try to be positive with the way you say it. Not a lot to ask and will at least lighten the mood. Doom and gloom merchants are the last thing we need at the moment, even if they are proved to be right in the end.
     
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  8. Lowemustgo

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    The problem is that Nigel doesn't SEEM to learn from tactical mistakes and poor substitutions.
    Or whoever picks the team, if its not Nigel?
    If he was learning, then he would NOT have put out 11 new players against a tough championship team like Leeds last night.
    Yes, we want to try new players and formations, but if you change EVERYTHING, then even if you succeed you won't know which one or two of the changes was the important one to make in the next game. Its a lack of tactical nouse.
    Personally, I agree that this summer's transfer money is at best doubtful value and at worst wasted.
    Oh and why ever let Billy Sharp go on a season's loan? There has been no explanation.
    And how come our 'great scouting team' never thought of getting Wayne Bridge back? - he went on loan to Brighton- how embarrassing is that?
    Wayne was one of the clubs greatest players and exactly the left back that we so badly need and he's been awesome for Brighton.

    The other problem with the club is the complete utter cluelessness of the media department and the utter drivel that passes for news on the (extremely clunky) website.
    'Gaffer says this'; Fred says 'we'll do better next time', Jack says 'under 9's triumph against Hogwarts 11' Jill says 'we let in a lot of easy goals'
    No analysis of what actually happened and what we are doing about it - so the conclusion must be that they don't actually know/understand/have a clue.
    Maybe they don't even go to the games and just write their lazy scribbles from a desk somewhere?
    At least in the Dark Lord's era there was a 'Tell Rupert' contact email and a half decent news reporter called Graham Hiley.
    Having such a bad relationship with the media/local paper makes for a complete absence of news/buzz around the club/feeling of helplessness/despair/its all going to end in tears.
    All we get is other people slagging off our manager because the club can't explain what the hell the plan is?
    Rant over:emoticon-0101-sadsm
     
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  9. fatletiss

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    Seriously? I don't need correct spelling or perfect grammar but I do need sentences that are coherent and mean something. So many of your posts don't have this so I have no idea of your meaning.
     
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  10. RickieGoalMachine

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    It is true he's a victim of his own success but he's also lost the plot in terms of team selection, tactics and substitutions. His stubbornness and refusal to learn from mistakes is an embarrassment. I don't want to see him go and hope he can learn. But if we don't get at least 4 points from the next 5 league games I expect he might be gone.
     
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    Even 4 points won't be an acceptable return in my eyes, if we really are going to survive.

    Firstly, good luck to anyone trying to survive if their grand total of points from Swansea (h), Norwich (h), and QPR (a) is a maximum of 4 points. Secondly, December, January and February are not easy months for us fixture-wise, certainly not with our current squad any way (had we had the opportunity to strengthen the squad by then, then December's fixtures wouldn't look quite as difficult - as it is, I can only see one win in there).
     
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  12. pass the football

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    Arsenal were seconds away from losing to Reading last night, would you have said Wenger hasn't learnt enough if they had? You clearly don't understand the club's priority above all else is survival in the league.

    Because he's not in our first team plans and he wanted to play?

    Now I think you're on the wind-up...
     
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    I don't think it is either and I would be very disappointed if we don't pick up at least 7 points. But I think it will be enough to save himself from the sack for the time being. As we should then have a run with Ramirez back fully match fit in the side.
     
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    Exactly. Nigel decided the players who started on Sunday hadn't had enough recovery time and should not play again on Tuesday in a competition that isn't a priority. I think that's a perfectly acceptable decision, particularly as we were the only team that played last night that had also played on Sunday.
     
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  15. - Doing The Lambert Walk

    - Doing The Lambert Walk Well-Known Member

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    I get as wound up as anyone. However, lets not lose sight of things.

    Loyalty is a two-way thing. At the start of the season people were worrying about a bigger club coming in for Nigel this season or next.

    9 PL games is not loyalty IMO. This lad's article reflects a lot of how I feel right now.
     
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  16. fatletiss

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    I've said all along. Stick with Nigel.
     
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  17. Beddy

    Beddy Plays the percentage

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    Ok the article is a bit on the negative side.....but really folks is it so very different to what is on most peoples mind?
    It is a different question that is being asked isn't it? I know the recent poll by the Echo, was it, said 78% said they thought NA should see it through.
    He badly boobed last night again though didn't he by under estimating the task of beating Leeds? I cannot see that he will be allowed to make too many more. There is too much at stake....I really feel for him but he survives or falls by his decisions. I personally feel that he will make the decision himself rather than be pushed in the not too distant future.
     
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  18. gomarchingin

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    It's this bollocks iPhone and me of course .
     
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  19. fatletiss

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    Now Beddytare I am going to be accused of being a Happy Clapper ... you could spin this line in bold and say .... "Nigel showed firm strong management by sticking to his guns that 48 hours was not enough rest for the "first team" players who played. For this reason, that team was always going to be picked and it was the players who let him down. The youngsetrs got some good experience"

    :p
     
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  20. Beddy

    Beddy Plays the percentage

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    From what I heard on the Radio we more than held our own for the first 20 minutes then we slid into the same old problems. Sorry for me he could have had a bit more experience on the bench to make an impact. There were too many youngsters in the side perhaps....I don't know.....for me it was a very weakened team. Experience should have told him that they were not going to be an easy team to beat. It also showed IMO just how weak we are in defence especially the two centre backs Hoover and Seaborne. They by all accounts were woeful. They of course are our back ups for the first team. So no last night was not one of NA's best IMO. Just for the record, you may indeed be called a happy clapper, by others. However never by me.....your opinion is as valued as anyone else's is.......Just thought I would mention that.
     
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