Graeme Jones : Why doesn't he want the job ?

Seems a no brainer really . Biggest league in the world , knows the teams style well , knows most of the team . Not that I am totally in favor of the job being his , but I'm just baffled why an opportunity that most assistant managers would cut off their arm for has been rejected by Mr. Jones . The best I can come up with is his loyalty to Roberto after Martinez had a rough ride out of town .. Any one got a theory ? Cheers

 

maybe he prefers the colour red, and is waiting for MM to bottle it again so he can take the dragons job?

 

Could be lots of reasons. Perhaps he likes his job in Wigan and wants to stay there. Perhaps he likes being no. 2 and doesn't want the pressure of being no.1. Perhaps he knows many Swans don't want him. Plenty more reason. I hink you're very wrong to think that most assistant managers would take the job. I think most would refuse it.

 

He'll be Martinez's No 2 at Tottenham when he gets the job ,

 

Is that Tottenham Court Road?

 

Simple. The mans a **** house. Nothing more, nothing less.
There are tonnes of people out there who would bite your hand off at the opportunity to manage us... Just look at the last 3 managers past records. Roberto moved to a prem club on more cash... Sousa moved to a loaded club on more cash, Brendan moved to Liverpool! We are known for making a decent reputation for a manager based on our playing style. Let's face it, the guy doesn't even have to be 'outstanding' to manage us, just so long as he sticks to the philosophy he will do well.

I won't lie, I was like 11 the day of the great escape against hull so only have a vague memory of it... My whole conscious memory of the swans (game in game out) has been nothing but success. I remember the petty days obviously. But nothing sticks in my mind more than all these promotions and achievements. Since iv been going to every game a season, the lowest iv seen us finish is I think 11th, the season after we lost to Barnsley in the Play off final. And the longest we have stayed in a division is 3 years. We are a team on the up and still rising. Any potential manger would be damn well lucky to inherit our team. Failure is no longer in our vocabulary.

 

Think the step up is to much, he is not stupid and he is not afraid to take the job, but if he took it and relegated our side that would be game over for him. He needs to start off at a lower league side and learn the business there, a club like Cardiff would be a good call for him because they have little chance of going down, and no chance of going up once he's been there a few years a premier league side would snap him up.

 

Pathetic. Just because he doesn't want the job is not reason to insult him.

 

I don't believe that for one second (respectfully of course) but almost any manager out there is working towards one thing and one thing only, to manage a premier league team. No matter the team every manager would love to be here. Why choose to manage at a lower level when you have the opportunity to go straight in? The only reason ex pro's do manage at a lower level is to try and get to the top division ASAP, none of them are there because they truly want to be.

 

Casual how am I pathetic and how have I insulted him? Called him a **** house yes. If I said he had no bottle would that be considered the same insult?
I gave my opinion and gave my reasons, isn't that the entire point of this forum?
Think next time before you post. Then again it's starting to spread that you are in fact a Cardiff fan, so maybe your main aim is just to insult us jacks and attempt to wind us up yes?

 

Lets be honest he is with the club he had the most success with as a player and he is assistant to a manager he has the most success with in management. Not all assistants want to take the next step up and why should they. He is obviously happy where he is and good luck to him. He is still in the biggest league in the world with Wigan, why take on the added pressure of being a number 1 at a club with less cash. Also I am sure I read somewhere that he doesn't see eye to eye with HJ (could be wrong might just be idle gossip)

 

Being happy as a number 2 at a club is all good and well and good luck to the guy. But jeez, where is the ambition? An opportunity to manage a premier league side without even having to go through the doldrums of the lower leagues. Paulo dicanio would probably kill to get here as easily. But Ahh well, his loss really.

 

what I have been told is that HJ and GJ don't get along and Morgans Wants him in?

 

Cue dai... (thank you ignore button )

 

swan-m everyone is different, people have different priorities in life, while the swans maybe attractive to a lot of people to others it's not. It could be family reasons, it could be he feels he is not qualified enough, it could be because as said above he can't work with Huw.

I work for a company and don't really want promotion again as I am happy with my current role, if offered a job at a higher level I would certainly look it and see if it fits in with me, if it doesn't I wouldn't take it, perhaps jones feels the same ?

 

He's obviousley happy as number two at Wigan. He also realises he probably has little managerial experience, especially at this leve, and should he sign and get us relegated, he would then probably be out of a job.

Can't blame him. Happy tbh.

 

Maybe yes, and maybe he feels he couldn't handle the pressure of making all the decisions that will decide the future of a club... But let's look at it this way. He is currently probably on like 10k a week. He would sign for us more likely on a 3 year contract on 20k or so a week. Premiership wages.
Whether he survives or not the guy is guaranteed 3.1m. And how hard would it really be to get an assistant manager job after that? This is assuming he crashes and burns of course. Whether I though I was qualified enough or not, the opportunity to make that kind of ridiculous money that fast would probably sway my to work way out of my comfort zone.

 

Totally agree Valley. Its not a lack of ambition at all. I am sure we all set ourselves out to be the best we can be. Now, if at some point we realise that the best is number 2 then that is realising our potential and acheiving it. He maybe knows that he is good at being an assistant but maybe not as the boss.
That doesnt necessarily translate as fear of failure or lack of ambition just a realistic evaluation of his own abilities.
Then again he may feel that our club is crap, filled with one eyed narrow minded fans and hates the chairman and the board. Who knows what others really feel about our club. Personally I think if he feels its not right for him then he is not right for us.
Does Bergkamp lack ambition? After what he has acheived I very much doubt it. But he is quoted as not wanting to be a number 1 and not even the best team in Wales can tempt him

 

I think he would be a great manager! With enough experience he's been number 2 for how long? must know the crack by now! I think something fishy is going on?

 

But maybe money is not his motivator here, it maybe yours and others, but putting your motivations onto him is probably the reason why you don't understand it. There is another possible reason is that he has been promised the Wigan job when Martinez leaves.