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Good job we didn't sign Ched Evans...

Discussion in 'Leicester City' started by I used to be john fallen, Apr 20, 2012.

  1. I used to be john fallen

    I used to be john fallen Active Member

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    just got 5 years for rape....scum...
     
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  2. Proud Fox

    Proud Fox Well-Known Member

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    Sven was meant to be after him for a bit aswell.

    The scumbag can rot.

    Some club will sign him when he comes out though. They always do
     
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  3. Rightsideoverhere

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    He'll join Coventry in conference north in 4 years
     
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  4. Danger Fox

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    Nah - Chaventry will not exist as a club in 4 years, he'll have to join Birmingham City
     
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    Finally one of 'em goes now for it! But surprise, surprise, It's a lower league player. Obviously didn't have the megabucks to get the case thrown out/pay off the vicitm...
     
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  6. Proud Fox

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    Titus Bramble is next and then John Terry
     
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  7. RicardoHCAFC

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    How do you explain the Port Vale player in it though.

    She was drunk when they met.
    They both slept with her.
    Apparently she's too drunk to consent with Evans, but sober enough to say yes to the other player? Not sure how that works.
     
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  8. leicester_ed

    leicester_ed Well-Known Member

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    im sorry but is that really rape? They had probably both been drinking and allowed him to have sex with her... is that not her fault and her mistake? For something she consented has resulted in 5 years of prison if that is right.
     
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    What an absolute ****.
     
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  10. I used to be john fallen

    I used to be john fallen Active Member

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    There is nothing I detest more than rapists, can't believe the justifiers and excusers, disgusting.... 12 independent people with no axe to grind heard ALL the evidence and agreed he is guilty...Thats our system...
     
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  11. Proud Fox

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    There has been alot of support from footballers on twitter since it came out. Usual sort of stuff " Ched isnt that sort of person" etc.

    He is a convicted rapist and that makes him a scumbag. He doesnt deserve support, the victim does no one else
     
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  12. FosseFilberto

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    Possibly she fancied the other guy whilst still able to decide but Evans thought he could help himself to 'sloppy seconds' whilst she was comatose ... only surprise is the lowlife had eough to wake her .. probably a first for him.
     
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    I think because of the profile of the case they should be giving some explanation as to the difference. Even the player they've decided did nothing wrong said she consented to it with Evans so it was no different to the case against him, and there's no evidence to the contrary because she can't remember (about either player)

    It might be more likely that if they found the Vale player guilty there'd be a few members of the jury who should also be serving time because they've pulled a drunk lass at the end of the night, where as with Evans none of them have asked their mate and the girl he's pulled if they can have a go so they can decide it's wrong without it making them feel guilty about their own actions.
     
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    Guys i am not condolling rape at all, but the quote is:


    The judge said the sentence took into account that there had been no force involved and the complainant received no injuries.

    He also said the complainant was not "targeted" and the attack had not been "premeditated".

    - well, she clearly wanted to have sex with him. Its not his fault she was so drunk. 5 years because a girl, who consented, changed her mind???
     
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    Ed - I don't know enough about the details of this case I'll admit, but it can only be 'rape' if it was non-consensual .. and she does have the right to 'change her mind' ...
     
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    yeah but there was no struggle so she clearly wanted and she changed her mind in the morning... well isnt that a bit late? I want to be careful how i sound here but i dont understand this at all- he had sex with a woman who said 'yes'? Its not his fault she got herself so drunk.
     
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    Ed - there's a big difference between wishing you hadn't afterwards and actually saying 'no' just before - even if she had been up for it right up to that point - as I said 'tho - I really don't know enough about the details
     
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  18. leicester_ed

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    oh yeah, if she didnt want to at/during then that is disgraceful- that is rape. I was getting the impression that it was rape because she was so drunk that her 'yes' they are saying didnt count- meaning when she regretted sex the next morning a mans life is completely ruined for having sex with a consenting woman. He is being punished for a woman getting so drunk- shouldnt it be her regret?
     
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  19. LeicesterWizard

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    I kinda think they were all at fault really, McDonald for bringing her back, and Evans for having a bash as well, kind of sounds like McDonald should be sent down for being an accomplice to rape.
    Yes they were both in the wrong, and they are stupid as **** for even touching her, but she did herself no favours either.
     
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  20. Danger Fox

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    This is a minefield of legal and moral definitions of right and wrong - I will give a very honest true account of a case (and no it's not me) and let you make your own mind up.

    A boy and girl (both around the age of 21) were good friends and decided to get a house share together as they wanted to make their own way in the world, BUT NOT AS A COUPLE, just a house share - They had found a place and were in the period in-between finding the place and moving in.

    To celebrate they went out on the town and BOTH got quite drunk - At the end of the night they went back to his mothers house which had two bedrooms, his mothers and his - They made the decision that they were both good friends and as reasonable adults they could exercise self restraint and went to bed together in his bed.

    The next morning he noticed she was "a bit quiet" and he asked what was wrong - I don't know how the conversation went, so I won't guess - The next day the police knocked his door and arrested him for RAPE - The boy states this was a complete surprise although he was later confronted with evidence of "activity" between them

    It is his repeated position that he has no knowledge of any "activity" between them and after accepting that that was, he maintains that it occurred either in his sleep or in a drunken "comatose" state - It did occur to me that his mother was in the next room and if there was any unwanted attention she could have called out, or simply got out of the bed (if he was as drunk as he states) although even if he wasn't I imagine it would be difficult to keep someone in a bed if they didn't want to stay in it.

    What I, as a man are unable to comprehend is the fear the girl was going through at the time or her unwillingness to let another person know what she was going through, although she could have taken action to stop the activity and by going to the police and subsequent trial a significantly more amount of people became aware.

    Anyway the outcome of the trial was a guilty verdict and a five year sentence - Make up your own mind
     
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