Good Article on the fan protests

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/newcastle-united/11221168/Newcastle-United-fans-were-right-to-call-for-Alan-Pardew-to-be-sacked-and-to-argue-otherwise-is-insulting.html

Agree with all the points made.

 

I'm not sure I agree with it all but certainly the fans are entitled to voice their opinion. Undoubtedly some go too far or get personal. I do think others pick the wrong times, while some capitilise on the ill feeling for some self serving ego boosting agenda.

Apologise to Pardew though? Nah. They were simply voicing their frustrations over our terrible form in the main. Its the same at every football club bar none. When things are going great and you're winning 5 on the bounce, fans are buoyant and happy. When you've won 1 in 10 and can't score a goal for toffee, fans become restless and frustrated.

We have excellent very loyal support. They don't owe any apologies.

 

Nice to see an article that doesn't defend Pardew because I've seen plenty, especially the vile rimmery from so called 'experts', constantly harping on about him being from the south (I'm from the Midlands and still hate the c**t but not because he is from London, I have many more justified reasons as do most of us), the fans are deluded (what for wanting to win a few games?) and he has acted with 'dignity' (that word is not in the man's vocab - we all know this. Hanging in by your blooded finger nails isn't dignity in my book).

Look, it is great we are winning atm but we all know Pardew has deserved the sack on so many f**ing occasions and hasn't stayed on merit but due to that fact that he is perfect for the owner. All those c**ts giving it the 'Where are the banners now' need to remember what a cancerous job he has done for the past year and four wins in the league, allbeit great, hasn't wiped the stench of wretchedness away.

Remember and this is very important, fans of clubs such as Newcastle, West Ham, Aston Villa, etc have no right to complain. Those rights are only reserved for Liverpool, Man Utd and other media loved teams.

 

F@ck the Telegraph, St Alan should stand in the centre circle at the next home game and give a wa#nker gesture to all four sides of the ground.

 

Totally agree with the sentiment that fans have every right to complain and protest - as does every other person/group in society (though the right to do that is slowly being eroded). I agree with BG that some went too far and made it too personal. Also very much agree that some are into these protests for their own egotistical reasons.

While agreeing with the right to protest I didn't agree with the sackpardew campaign because of its anonymity. We've had our chains yanked by far too many people in the past to not know who is behind any major campaign associated with the club. I don't buy their reasons for staying anonymous and my gut feeling was that there was something sinister behind that campaign.

I also don't think Pardew is as bad as the majority make out, and certainly don't agree that his biggest fault is supporting the regime. Whoever is in charge will be supporting the regime or they will not be in charge. That fact will never ever change no matter who is manager.

There were plenty of reasons to criticise Pardew just as I believe there were also plenty of mitigating circumstances. That isn't me jumping on the bandwagon as I was saying exactly the same thing a month ago.

For now though we are in a good position, and on a decent run of form. Four wins doesn't take away the poor start, but the poor start doesn't take away our current position either. Pardew isn't owed an apology, and, as the article states, he has never asked for one. At this stage we should all be behind the club and hoping the success continues. If it does then we should get behind Pardew too. In my opinion, anyone who still wants him out if he ends up bringing success is being totally blinkered. It is those people who will be hoping that the run ends and that Pardew fails. It is those who will owe an apology - not to Pardew, but to the rest of us fans.

 

I find your continual bitter and bile filled comments quite tiresome, I have no doubt you will be happy once the team loses a few as it will justify your position and need to throw abuse at others.

 

I don't even know who the f** you are but for some reason you have thrown your tampon out. Lets clear something up off the bat.

I've never thrown abuse at others on here. People have a right to their opinion. I disagree with people on here but never given any sort of bile at them for it. I don't even think I typed anything that negative but rest assured in future I will happily w**k off over Pardew in every post I make.

 

If we all saw things the same way it wouldn't be much of a forum

 

That is one very obscene thought - can I suggest a therapist to help you out, or maybe ***.

 

This.

Plus... video it or it didn't happen.

 

It's very interesting that the player/playing staff/fan disconnect is coming into focus, first with Jose and now with Adebayor. Fact is, if you charge £40 a ticket, then it's not a cheap way to spend 2 hours. It's entertainment, it's no longer seeing your team play, it's no longer about atmosphere. If you don't get a result, it's apparently like paying £40 to see a comedian die on stage, £40 to watch the Harlem Globetrotters miss every single basket, or £40 to watch a Musician mime for five minutes and walk off.

That's what the clubs have done. They're now turning round and wondering why people are quick to protest, quick to boo, well they've taken the fun, community, tradition aspects of the game, and made it a big-money show. If the show's no good, people kick up a stink.

 

Leave our Cheryl out of this!!?!?!!

 

Never. She refused my "Date JPF Challenge". It's like the ALS challenge, only I nominated her and Rachel McAdams...

 

Pretty much spot on.

It has to be said that a lot of people outside of NUFC are looking at the club thinking 'what a bunch of twats you look now'. There were probably justified reasons for calling for Pardew's sacking given the form but the arseholes with the SackPardew website and printing A4 banners want to be shot with ****e for embarrassing the club, the town and the region. Absolutely not the way to go about things. If you don't like it, don't go, otherwise get behind the team. Holding up banners and all the rest of it only damaged the team and gave outsiders ammunition against us. Just IMHO, like.

 

I agree wholeheartedly, it's fine for me questioning the direction of the club, the policies and the management, but it really doesn't have to be done in such an attention-seeking manner. Just don't go to the games. Empty seats hurt Ashley more than paying lots of money to say some nasty words, which only disrupt the players.

 

I think that is what is undeniable in the recent run. BRS suggests Pardew hasn't had dignity, that seems petty to me and based on a hatred of the bloke. He hasn't hidden, he has taken the blame, he hasn't asked for an apology when things have turned round, and he has heaped the praise on the players. No wonder the players and Mike like him so much, he acted as a great human shield for them during a difficult period. To still come out the other end fighting deserves credit and shows a pretty steely inner strength of character. I think he deserved the criticism, a lot of it anyway. I think he deserves the praise too. To me he has shown dignity through a very difficult period.

Aside from it all I still think there are problems at the club. Our lack of investment will always hinder us. I still think our transfer policy is warped and I think the recent run has very clearly mapped out the benefit of having players who know the leagues in this country. There is a long way to but the fans should just enjoy the current run instead of worrying about who is or isn't in the right or wrong. We've had enough s**t to watch for a long period.

I would like to see Jimi's suggestion though