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Giroud new contract

Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by Arsenal87, Sep 30, 2014.

  1. Arsenal87

    Arsenal87 Well-Known Member

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    According to the boss it's a done deal on a new contract.

    On another topic, where's the Galatasaray match day thread, hellooooo, it's tomorrow evening, get a move on.
     
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  2. Sanj

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    If you want a match thread that badly, make it yourself you lazy ****.

    As for Giroud signing a new contract, meh.
     
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  3. afcftw

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    Pleased with this, he has done well for us so far and is a good big man up top option.

    He is also the sort of player where when we decide to sell he has done well enough to command a decent transfer fee so having him on a proper length contract is a good idea.

    Thumbs up from me.
     
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  4. Captain James T. Berk

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    Horrible decision IMO, means we're stuck with him and Welbeck now. I was hoping that by signing Welbeck, we'd sell Giroud and just use Welbeck as backup to a proper striker, but evidently that's not the case, and we're stuck with a few more years of missed sitters and multiple facepalms.
     
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  5. cini65

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    He's epitomises a 4th place team... he's just not quite good enough. So not surprising AW signed him to a long-term deal.
     
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  6. PINKIE

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    I disagree with this. Whilst neither are world class strikers, they will both get us plenty of goals. For all the criticism of Giroud he still scored 22 goals in 51 games last season, so that's a better than 1 in 2 strike rate. Welbeck has shown that he can score, create chances and get himself into positions to score so I think he'll do well. I said it on another thread, but I think our main problem at the moment (other than not having a DM) is not our strikers, but our overall slow pass and possession play. We need to be more direct.
     
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  7. afcftw

    afcftw Well-Known Member

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    Giroud has scored 40 goals in 100 apps across two seasons. Of course he has done enough to get a new contract. He is a player we wouldn't struggle to sell if we got someone new in to replace him so I think those who think it means giroud will be our first choice striker for the next four years are worrying a bit too much!
     
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  8. cini65

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    Subjective. Guesswork.

    Err.... seriously?

    Good to see as always that you base your opinions on a player over a long-term observation of performance in many games... certainly not the first 4 games for a club where a player has scored 1 goal. ;)

    Agreed. Our tactics and play is the problem. And that's down to AW. If he remains, you honestly we're going to win the title or challenge in the CL? Those are the only two things left for us to do...
     
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  9. cini65

    cini65 Well-Known Member

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    41 goals in 102 apps for the first choice striker for the 5th most valuable football club in the world is entirely not good enough.
     
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  10. Captain James T. Berk

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    I think you mean 1 in 3, which is pretty much Giroud's career average. The problem with Giroud is who he scores against, he's next to useless in big games.
     
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  11. Bodinki

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    For a club as big as Arsenal, who want to compete for the PL and CL, Giroud is not good enough as your first choice striker.
    As a back up striker he would be great, but you really should be going for a striker who will net you 20-25 league goals per season, and Giroud is not that man.
     
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  12. The Bonstar Wandit

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    PISKIE, if 22 in 51 is "better than 1 in 2" you need to go take some Maths classes. I'm happy with the extension, however you feel about him Arsenal don't want to lose him on a free / for a paltry last year of contract sum. He's not the stellar striker we all want to see, a new striker is still required unless Welbeck steps up big time, but this is a good move, particularly while he's injured as he's unlikely to have got a big payrise with it.
     
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  13. lazarus20000

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    I'm all for supporting our players and Giroud is a good player, but some people need some perspective, Giroud is not a top striker or a striker we need to challenge for the Prem. He is a good back up option, that's all. It's like having a supercar with small thin tires, you need premium quality wide tires to be able to control all that power under the bonnet. Same with our top quality midfield, we have all that quality and all they see is Giroud in the centre. Bless him, he does his best, but he won't quite take us to the levels we need to win the biggest honours.

    We've had class players playing as our CFs and at one time we had both Henry and Anelka in our ranks. I really hope we can go back to having a feared CF.
     
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  14. afcftw

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    That's not his career average at all.

    2008/09 (tours - league 2) - 26 apps, 13 goals, a goal per 2 games
    2009/10 (tours - league 2) - 41 apps, 23 goals, a goal per 1.7 games
    2010/11 (montpellier - league 1) - 43 apps, 14 goals, a goal per 3 games
    2011/12 (Montpellier - league 1) - 42 apps, 25 goals, a goal per 1.6 games
    2012/13 (arsenal - prem) - 47 apps, 17 goals, a goal per 2.7 games
    2013/14 (arsenal - prem) - 51 apps, 22 goals, a goal per 2.3 games
    2014/15 (arsenal - prem) - 4 apps, 2 goals, a goal per 2 games

    Which gives him a career average of about a goal per 2.1 games.
    He has averaged twenty goals a season over the last four years.

    He's a good quality striker. Not world class by any stretch of the imagination, but a good solid option to have in the squad and a player who has shown enough consistency to ensure we get a good fee for him if we decide to sell.
     
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  15. Bodinki

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    All due respect though Afcftw, what does his career average have to do with anything?
    Surely you should be focusing on what he has achieved in an Arsenal shirt?
    Again, all due respect to the french league, but it isnt the Premier League.
    There has been an innumerable amount of strikers with decent strike rates abroad who havent been able to cut the mustard, for whatever reason, upon joining the PL
    (See Forlan, Kezman, Shevchenko, Soldado and many others)

    Kezman's stats:

    2000–2004 PSV Eindhoven Games 122 Goals 105
    2004–2005 Chelsea Games 25 Goals 4
    2005–2006 Atlético Madrid Games 30 Goals 8

    Dutch league, played like a boss.....PL and La Liga, played like Defoe :p
     
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  16. afcftw

    afcftw Well-Known Member

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    I was just replying to the person who shrugged him off as a one goal per three games striker throughout his career. Was simply showing that to be incorrect.

    For arsenal he has over 40 goals in a couple of seasons including his first in the country. Not a bad return really. He out scored all of Chelsea's strikers last season :p
     
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  17. Bodinki

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    I could have outscored all of Chelsea strikers last season! <laugh>
    We had an OAP, a Flop, and a guy who never got to play.

    Girouds scoring ratio is respectable and he is a good player, but I think what people are saying is they want Arsene to get a striker to be feared like Henry, RVP etc
    Its the only way you will kick on and start living up to your teams potential, (That and ditching that dud of a manager you have, But I wont get in to that for fear of causing more discord).
     
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    Because they were crap.
     
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  19. cini65

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    The spin being used to big up Giroud is exactly the sort of nonsense that winds up some fans (and results in posts from A87). Post whatever stats you want... anyone who watches him play football can see he's not good enough. Call it as it is.

    And who really cares if we can get a good sum for him when we sell him? He's not good enough as a first choice striker for Arsenal.

    I repeat... 41 goals in 102 games as a first choice striker in the 5th most valuable club in the world is not a good return. It's merely adequate... which is what Giroud is in general.
     
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  20. afcftw

    afcftw Well-Known Member

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    I agree we need a world class striker as well. I just think it's good news that giroud has signed a new contract as he is a solid squad option.

    Quickly looking up last season he was the sixth highest scorer in the league. He is level with aguero in fourth for amount of league games scored in, having scored in only four games less than Suarez.

    Like I said, he isn't world class but he has done enough to earn his place in the squad and has been consistent enough for us and previously in his career to fetch a good price when we decide to sell him, so it's a good move to extend his contract.
     
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