Arshavin, when we got him, was a World Class player. Arshavin is a central midfielder who is played out wide to accommodate Fabregas, who is a better player...Now we don't have Fabregas and we need to get the very best out of the players we have. So here is the question: How do we get the best out of Arshavin? Play him in the hole. I'm an advocate of playing a real 4-3-3, not a 4-5-1. -----Gervinho-------------Walcott--- ----------------RVP----------------- ---------Arteta-------Ramsey------- ----------------Song---------------- Santos--Vermaelen--Koscielny--Sagna --------------Szczesny-------------- That formation would please RVP, who gets a free role, and Walcott who gets to be a wide forward. However, with a simple switcheroo, you get Arshavin in his favoured role, RVP with a strike partner and, unfortunately, Theo on the bench as one hell of a super sub. ---RVP-------Gervinho--- -------Arshavin---------- --Arteta------Ramsey--- --------Song--------- In that position, Arshavin is world class. RVP and Gervinho are perfectly capable of playing as wide forwards, behaving like wingers where required and strikers where required. That front three is also capable of switching around as needed during a game. Ignoring the question mark over playing Gervinho in the hole, all three can play in all three positions. Handy to have. Also, Theo coming off the bench is one of the most deadly forces in modern football. But we need to find a way to get the little Russian firing on all cylinders, otherwise the spark will be hard to find.
To be fair, Rosicky was great out wide in a 4-4-2. The trouble is there is only two CM slots and this causes headaches. Wenger needs to buy more players like Gervinho, real wingers.
I completely agree, watched Arshavin for Russia and he is a lot better in his natural position down the middle.
Its difficult. If we played like this: ---RVP-------Gervinho--- -------Arshavin---------- --Arteta------Ramsey--- --------Song--------- We would have absolutely no width and the fullbacks would have to bomb forward - then quickley run back to cover when the play breaks down. Sagna is capable of this - Gibbs is not. The man problem is that we have a technical squad thats been assembled without a clear system in mind. Basically Wengers buys what he likes and rather than what he needs- most of the time at least. The problem is Walcott, Chamakh, RVP, Park, Gervinho & Arshavin are all best suited to playing down the middle - and we cant accomodate them all. I actually think This is our best most balanced team: Diaby's always poor when he first comes back from an injury but when fit he offers speed, athletiscism, aggression and the ability to quickley change the direction of play. Home: ---------------------Sczezney----------------------- Sagna----Mertesacker-----Vermaelen----Santos Walcott-------Wilshere--------Song--------Diaby -------------------VanPersie ----------------------Park/Gervinho Away: ---------------------Sczezney----------------------- Sagna----Mertesacker-----Vermaelen----Santos ---------Diaby-------Song-------Wilshere--------- Walcott------------VanPersie-----------Gervinho
Are you seriously suggesting we should leave Arteta on the bench in favour of Diaby? I like your away team with Arteta instead of Diaby though.
When Diaby was last time at least as decent as Arshavin against Swansea ?? Arshavin for all his faults is at least a truly creative player able to produce a killer pass. Diaby is just a liability.
Again another pointer that we do have our players out of position. I think this is something to work on this season. Who knows? We may get the desired results. At the very east they should be tried out as a change of tactics during a match which would also pressure the opposition. I keep saying Arsene doesn't appear to be at his best at positioning or tactics.
Totally agree with this article. Arshavin is so much better playing centrally. I think 4-3-3 hinders us sometimes, and prevents players from playing in their natural positions. I'd love to see Walcott up front with Gervinho and RVP just behind, or Walcott up front with RVP. I think this squad has got immense talent, we need to play players in their strongest positions. Not fit them around a formation.
Yeah, Actually. I still think he's potentially 'World Class'. Arteta's an excellent player but no better than that. Everything that Arteta gives the team (except experience maybe) Wilshere has and more. What Diaby gives us is that change of pace and direction that we used to have. According to Opta when he's fit his the most successful dribbler of the ball in the league. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOs2Gf0rhd8&feature=related
Arteta is a class act, I don't see how anyone can contest that. Diaby...... I'm a big fan of his He had a bad injury when he came through at Arsenal which stunted his development. Since then he's been in and out of the team, but he is a battler and a very skilfull centre midfielder. His form is elusive, but he has definitely got the talent. I've always thought he could become known as Paddy Diaby at Arsenal
didnt he play wide in the 4-4 draw at liverpool? still scored 4, the problem is hes either one or all of these: 1,not fit for the PL. 2,homesick, 3, overweight 4, dont like playing wide(but stills plays well sometimes) hes 30 yr old and a little late in the day to be playing like he did when he first came
When he first came to Arsenal he said he loves to play on the left side of a front 3 or behind a main forward. Problem with playing him in the middle is Van Persie is not a player that likes to run beyond the CB therefore him and Arshavin as a combo will clash in the middle. Arshavin needs a forward to push the CB's back so he can get space to work in. Van Persie will not give him that.
RvP and Arshavin are naturally best in the "hole" behind the striker. That's a conflict. It frustrates me a lot that there's never a player playing off the shoulder of the CB forcing them to keep a low-line and bringing up space between the midfield and defense. Ade was offside many times a game, but at least he was there, on the shoulder. If you want to play Arshavin central, you have to put in 2 DM's rather than one and a link player. In my opinion it would be possible, if the players were smart enough to create width when required. Otherwise you've got Arteta, Arshavin and RvP all trying to play in a very very close space.
I hate people saying a player are used in out position. Arshavin, Thoe, RVP etc, These players are mature enough to switch or interchange there position on peach. and that is the best way to prove to manager. But staying in a role that was not suite your way is not good, after all there are forward players not defender. If they do change and that gives us more goals than expected, no one will criticize them.
He was excellent for Russia v Rep of Ireland and bossed the game and they should have scored a few, Jayram hit the nail on the head, Wenger has a penchant for playing players out of position and most of it is not out of need.
if you really think about it, RvP is a hole player, so is Arshavin, and Theo is an off-the-last-man striker. So actually, the whole of the striking line is being played out of position right now.
Originally Posted by Wilsherethemaster Diaby would be much better than Arteta if played correctly. Arteta is a has been,no guts,far inferior to Diaby Pathetic comment, really shocking attitude you have in your so called support of our club & players. All your posts seem to be slaggin off one player or another.
