Get off Pardews back

Last year he was manager of the year and no one complained. This year we have been decimated with injuries, and our chairman never gave him money to spend in the summer. For all of you who says he should bang the door down, look at your own circumstances. I work for a company who have not had a pay rise in 5 years, all the staff are pissed off, but as there are hardly any jobs out there so we all have to suffer in silence. Now Pardew is not going to get himself sacked if Ashley says you have got NO money, work with what you have. We all know there are players that should be no where near the first team, but look what is below them No one challenging.We are not going to spend 15/20 million on one or two players, so we have to get the best of the rest. I will go on record we will not get relegated, but we will not finish in top ten, which is pathetic for a club of our size.

 

The team piccked itself last season, other teams had bad seasons, none of the good signings are his and he cant chamnge a game unless we are playing wel and the other team isn't. History doesn't lie he is not the man for the job. I understand why people dont want him sacked, however if we really want to get back anywehere near being regular top half fodder and keep quality like Ba, Ben Arfa snd Cabaye we need to show some ambition.

He's ot here for his mangerial skills he is here because he is a peasant in terms of wages and a pussy when dealing with the boards decisions or a company lick arse as I refer to them.

He lacks ambition if you ask me if he had brain he would have left after he wasnt back as he would have walked into a job after our fluke season. GHe cant read the game simple as that .

 

All very well saying he wasn't backed by MA & DL in terms of transfers, something I agree with. However, Pardew has made a rod for his own back be continually stating we'd challenge for 4th place this season. He also said we'd improve our set pieces and play the ball out from the back.

Some big promises from Pardew there, sadly he's failed to deliver on any of them.

Huge game for us on Saturday, not very often City lose two on the bounce. It's almost the perfect match for Pardew, in that if we lose it will be hard to criticise him given their resources. Hopefully the importance of the game will bring out in best in Pardew, the players & the fans meaning come 3pm on Saturday things will be looking up a little.

 

I disagree that the team picked itself last year, he left out Ben Arfa for half a season until he learnt how important the team ethic was, he went with Krul over Harper and brought players like Perch on tenfold.

He did a fantastic job last season, however this season, for whatever reason he's making poor substitutions and tactical calls. His press conferences are misleading and contradicting and our style of football has declined. He needs to deliver from January onwards because in December it will get worse before it gets better.

 

watch them from his West Ham days when the same occured - the mans an idiot and learned nothing.

He has never got his subs right in agame ever and we have never won a agame we are losing in because on him, we haven't scored a set peice yet we keep hoofig it in the box and our strikers look suicidal. The writing is on the wall he's on his way its just a matter of time before the last few die hards accept it. I not making a knee jerk decison I'm basing my claims on a variety of his faliures as laong as he's been in the game including trying to shag his players wives at Southampton.

 

Agree with Sir Bobby's i think any points we pick up in December will be a bonus, apart from QPR where we HAVE to win. I am not saying Pardew is without fault because his substitutions are baffling, and how Guti still gets picked week after week is beyond me.

 

Lot's of talk about 'we played well last night' did those people watch a different game? We lost. We huffed and puffed at times, but you seem to forget one crucial point, this was against FULHAM! A team who had not scored in hours of play, yet we are there to help them change that, they were on a dreadful patch of form, yet we are there to help them get their win.

I would be inclined to say Pardew Out given the last run of games (Wigan vs 10 men, we were getting outplayed prior to that sending off) and the simple fact that we just can't keep losing games and coming up with excuses, if we are playing youngsters, grind out a draw!

The only problem is that I have no idea who would be good to replace him, certainly not Di Matteo - quite what people see in him I don't know... Terrible football to get to the CL Final (and a massive amount of luck!) he is no better than Pardew.
No thanks to Poyet or Martinez either.

So if we can start turning losses into draws at least, then look to replace Pardew in the summer - but it does seem to me he is looking jaded in his latest interviews.

 

This is probably an error on his part. Our fans tend to get very "well you said" rather working in the realms of reality. He maybe has to learn a little but I do have to point out that in the same breath as saying 4th was a possibility, he also pointed out how difficult it would be to back up last season. Its just our fans choose to ignore the latter bit and hold him to the former. A problem with our fans and expectations more than anything else, but Pardew has to accept that.

 

We just need to learn the art of patience and the value of stability. Hopefully our board will stand firm behind their man and not fall into the mistakes of the past, listen to the fans and chop/change managers every time we have a sticky patch. Have to say I do think our support is a little deluded.

 

I disagree I think we just never got a good a manager - well maybe Hughton but we should be doing better than all the idiots we have employed - look at the list they are all ****.

 

I agree with people who have said that the break from the Europa League might help us. One of the big things that was reported on last season was how thorough we were preparing for every game. Defence taken away for seperate training sessions etc. I agree that they probably haven't been able to do that as much as they'd like and it's hurting us. We look a lot sloppier defensively this season. The next 3 months should dictate what kind of future Pardew has, as if we're still playing like we are now then maybe it shows he isn't the man for the job. Having said that I'd still keep him beyond this season regardless. People bang on about his 2nd season failings, no-one knows what he'd be like in a 3rd season. He might come good and become a legend in his time here. No-one knows because he's not had that chance yet. He is still learning and he won't if he doesn't get the chance to have a proper long-term crack at a job.

 

we will lose to them

 

Some very sensible points. Hopefully we'll have a manager in place for 5 years plus for the first time in ages. Bit of stability might capitalise on the obvious strengths of the club. This includes our fantastic support, however deluded they are at times. We just need to push through that initial expectation barrier as Man U did with SAF, Everton with Moyes and countless others over the course of history. The board need to understand the support, both its failings and the flipside. If they can stabilise us over a longer period I think our supports good qualities will get the chance to carry us a long way.

 

I cant stand him because he's a tosser basically.

The fact is our fans have become pussys that take it up the arse whatever happens at this club -WELL DONE ASHLEY YOU FAT ****.



**** OFF PARDEW

Ashley has succesfully devalued this club and managed to get the fans to acccept medocrity - the fat arsehole lies about goings on at the club for a start so I beleive nothing he says - HES A LIAR.

He more or less has said we want to buy cheap players and sell them for loads of money - HES A ****

No other club would get figures he gets for such a ****e outlay.

 

Katmandu
I don't say we have to spend no money, but football is killing itself at the moment stupid weekly wages, and vastly overated players being sold for 10's of millions. If Ashley had not taken over the club we would now be bankrupt. We spent money on dud after dud and what did we win nothing. So what is the big difference. I am old enough to remember when we won the Fairs cup, and i was there and since then we have trudged to Wembley and lost every time, and apart from a from a few great seasons under Sir Bobby we are back to where we have been for the last 50 years. Middle of the table. So getting rid of Pardew will not make ablind bit of difference.
PS Who would you replace him with?

 

I think Pardew deserves to have this full season at the very least. This January window will certainly be the most important of Pardew's reign. A few quality signings and a good second half to the season will mean he deserves to carry on with the following season. If he fails to turn it around then I agree it could be time to evaluate his position. However if he isn't getting funds he cant take all the blame. I understand fans are worried about certain decisions and tactics he uses, believe me i have concerns too but I think he can sort it out. I'd like to think he has a back-room addition planned to sort out set piece positioning because we really are beating ourselves at the moment. Keep the faith!

 

Great post! Totally agree with all of that.

No point talking so much sense to Katmandu though.... he's a bit single minded, to put it mildly ;-)

 

I actually like you.

I'm not detratcing about Pardew - he is not able to read the game.

We are in a relegation fight with a fair weather manager and I honestly think he'll get sacked before he changes any approach

 

The opening 20 were embarrassing for you last night.

As far as I can see, you fielded a squad that was pretty much your starting 11 for last season minus Cabaye but that Anita isn't exactly a poor replacement. You played well last season because of a 4-3-3 formation that Pardew is refusing to get back to and it looks like the only reason is to satisfy Demba Ba. Whilst Ba is a good striker, it's obvious your team isn't playing as well as it can and did last season.

You have nothing to lose against Manchester City this weekend so why not get back to that formation? It's looking increasingly likely that Ba is going to leave you in the lurch anyhow in January so why not put all your efforts into Cisse? He is devastating when he's in form, clearly Pardew's priorities are to keep Ba at the club and will sacrifice the results on the pitch in order to get a stupid clause out of his contract.

 

I see that clown Katmandu is banned.