They they don't need qualifications Bri, they just need a rule in place with a zero tolerance policy for any 'sufferer' of mental health issues, they simply cannot work flying planes. After that, buses, trains etc. You know I agree with you that mental health is drastically under researched, therefore there's no other option than to eliminate the risk. I don't want anybody with any anxiety, depression or other issues flying my plane, ever. Other people with physical illnesses have to find suitable jobs, if mentally I'll people neglect this responsibility then they're only part of the 'mental health problem'.
Yeah I'll go with that, my doctor wrote me depression pills for years and told me to read a few books as well. I only got referred when a major incident occurred and it should never have took for that to happen. When Terry mentioned doctors I just assumed he meant somebody qualified within the NHS to make the call about contacting a persons employer.
Na Terry, don't agree at all for somebody having suffered I can't believe your lack of empathy. Anyways, enjoy the game and I hope you do smash Villa
I thought so, which is why I thought it was a good point to bring in the subject up of how many people with mental health problems ever actually see anybody who's actually qualified. I bet it's a scary statistic.
And what about lorry drivers who can kill just as many people with their truck? Or builders with their dangerous tools who could hurt many people. Someone in a working in an office can develop delusions on society go to the canteen, get a knife and start killing people. GPs do need qualifications as you're stepping into a very very tricky area legally in regards to confidentiality. Any situation and any profession can become very dangerous if some is pushed over the edge, GPs aren't qualified to recognise this Fact is you're stepping into an area where people can be screened for race and religion too. It's wrong mate, by your sentiments you're saying you could be knocked back on your next job ap because of your mental illness. Your GP is unqualified, he could easily miss read your situation and then you've been discriminated. GPs should have no decision on mental health until they're trained in it in my opinion. Doesn't matter what job it is. Somebody who lost their mind could be a danger to many in a library. I think with your idea of mental health screening by unqualified people would contribute more to mental health problems than anything else ever. You may as well let a random person in the street screen you on your mental health. Not qualified is not qualified, let's let a lollipop lady sign mentally ill people off and decide whether they're fit to work in certain industries. I agree in certain situations the screening is necessary but it should only ever ever be done by someone who knows their onions otherwise it's just opening Pandora box.
Shows the difference in people right there, I was far more inventive think I was talking about sharpening a bic and putting it through someones neck. I do go to far at times mate but it's worrying how quickly the thoughts develop and turn into real decisions you have to make with yourself at times.
Exactly fella, doesn't matter what job it is, it's the frame of mind of the person who inflicts the damage. It's a sticky area of being able to deliver effective support without compromising liberties.
Suicide and mass murder by the co-pilot: that explains the deaths of 150 people aboard Germanwings flight 9525 from Barcelona to Dusseldorf. The co-pilot was named as 28-year-old Andreas Lubitz, who had joined Germanwings last year. Brice Robin, the Marseille public prosecutor, told a press conference that the first officer had locked the captain out of the cockpit and set the controls of the Airbus A320 for a rapid descent and the eventual crash into the French Alps. Immediately beforehand, conversation between the two pilots was normal, said M Robin. He revealed chilling evidence from the cockpit voice recorder about what the co-pilot did next: “He voluntarily allowed the aircraft to lose altitude. He had no reason to do this. He had no reason to stop the captain coming back into the cockpit.” The prosecutor said the co-pilot was breathing normally throughout the eight-minute descent. But he neither spoke nor responded in any way to alarms within the aircraft and from the ground. He outlined the sequence of events from the moment the captain asked the co-pilot to take over while he went to the toilet. “The co-pilot at that moment alone uses the flight management system that starts the descent of the aircraft. This action can only be done voluntarily.” He ruled out the possibilities that anyone else was in the cockpit, and that the co-pilot had collapsed and inadvertently triggered a descent. “We hear several cries of the pilot asking for access through the intercom system. But there’s no answer from the co-pilot.” Until the events of 11 September 2001, most passenger aircraft had a flimsy door between the cockpit and the cabin. The 9/11 terrorists, armed with blades that they had taken through security, were able easily to access the flight deck and kill the pilots to take control. After the terrorist attacks, airlines began to install reinforced doors, designed to be intruder-proof and bullet-proof. A key-code system is designed to allow cabin crew to gain entry in the event that the pilots are incapacitated. But an override switch - effectively a deadlock - can be engaged on the flight deck. When activated, the door cannot be opened from the outside for a pre-set length of time between five and 20 minutes. He outlined the steps taken to try to communicate with the doomed plane: “The tower asks them to do a distress signal but still there is no response. The control tower then asks other aeroplanes to try to contact this Airbus. No answer is forthcoming. There are alarm systems that indicate proximity to the ground.” “We hear noises of someone trying to break into the cockpit. Just before the final impact we hear the sound of a first impact.” M Robin ruled out terrorism as a possible motive, saying “At this stage nothing indicates a terrorist attack.” He said that the victims would have been aware of their fate “Only in the last moments” before the crash. “We only hear screams in the very end, in the last moments of the flight. Death was instant. It hit the mountain at 700km/h.” Earlier today The Independent asked Germanwings about its policy on flight-door access, and was told: “It is far too early to draw conclusions about adjusting existing processes and proceedings. We will make such an examination in any case as soon as we have confirmed facts available
The entire lufthansa section of Barca airport was closed down on our way out the following weekend. It was very spooky. Managed to divert the Mrs attention, as she'd been having nightmares all week, flying back with the nipper and all. She asked me how long it would take to drive back!
There is a system that could have prevented this tragedy -whereas a plane can be flown remotely via the ground crew- 'Uninterruptible autopilot system' , created by Boeing, it was patented to take control of a hijacked plane or incapacitated pilots - the aviation industry itself has been reluctant to implement this system.
Sorry lads same answer for all of you but I'm just not having it. The "you're naive, you don't know anything about it" response is an easy get-out clause and a bizarre one to throw at someone who you hardly know anything about. Depression is a horrible thing and suffered by a lot of people. I doubt we'd see any of you lads defend a mass murderer on grounds of insanity? Was Anders Breivik just a poor, unfortunate soul because he's clearly a crackpot? (despite what that joke of a Norwegian court decided). I'm all for more funding, research and awareness for mental illness. Using it as an excuse to justify mass murder, not for me, sorry.
This aswell. People quite rightly want mental illness to now be treated with as much priority as physical illness. That can't work both ways. You wouldn't let a blind man fly a plane?
And presumably, throughout your life, you have always made the decision NOT to hurt others. We've all fantasised about killing someone at some point in our lives. If you ever did, for example, stab someone in the neck with a pen, and blame it on mental health, I'd find that atrocious.
Unfortunately not. I should be sitting in Durham for years now for something I done. I got lucky and got away with it. I was going through a mental breakdown at the time and I'm telling you as somebody who has experienced this, I was delusional. Things were happening around me I wasn't aware of and things I thought were happening, really weren't. You are ignorant as ****, I still hope you or your loved ones never go through this mind
You may call it ignorance, physically hurting others and blaming illness will never be okay in my book and anyone who can do it is clearly a danger to society, see Anders Breivik, he should never be released and rightly so. I'll leave this there
I will because that's what it is, you'll realise you are wrong as you get older. I've no doubt about that, you are clearly an intelligent lad so will get it one day
Spot on. I'd hate to the person who has to lean on him for support. It's can wear you down that attitude from strangers but to have it from a loved one would be soul destroying.
