I'm going to bed me, took a load of tram and diazies, got correct my sleeping pattern for the derby. Night lads.
I think the bloke has layers that haven't been uncovered yet but to put this as simple as possible in my opinion... I was refused a career as a pilot flying for the RAF despite passing all the relevant aptitude tests, because I am colour blind. If you're not fit to fly a plane for ANY reason then tough ****, deal with it.
This is the saddest post I have read in along time....For this man to have got to this stage it is obvious that all form of reason was lost to him...To say that they were callous, conscious and calculated is actually dismissing the illness he was obviously suffering from... This was a terrible tragedy and hopefully lessons can be learned from it..
So will companies (in particular airline) learn from this awful and sad case? - I doubt it, I do not reckon they'll implement any better procedures to stop a tragedy like this happening once more - right now there will be loads of rhetoric regarding safeguarding that will soon stop, once the public eyes are turned to another newsworthy catastrophe, the bottom line is always company profit, safety & common sense second!
Well, we'd flown into Barcelona the day before so seeing this on the news the next day made it very freaky, as well as utterly tragic. As with other v. Sensible posts, jobs like this must only be accessible to those conforming to stringent physical and mental fitness conditions. Not all jobs should require such requirements or disclosure. Impractical and impossible to 'police' to start with, let alone unfair on those managing their illness/condition.
as a society we are still in the dark ages in our understanding, treatment and reaction to mental illness. I can't stand Nick Clegg but he's the only politician currently pointing out the need to give it equal importance to physical illness. Men in particular are afraid to talk about it or admit they may have it. There is a long long way to go and I hope that this tragedy helps to shine a light on the need for better research, treatment and understanding.
After all this time of reading your posts, your empathy still astounds me, what a great post from a fantastic man. Thank you.
I half agree mate, not really my thing to tell people with illnesses to 'deal with it'. I get you though and I get the sentiment behind it. There's no way that man should have been allowed anywhere near the cock-pit that day but who was to know and how could it have been avoided?
That would have put the chills up me mate! I'm taking the bairn away next month and all these planes going missing, being shot down, depressed pilots. I've never been bad for flying but **** me it does put doubts in your head that should never be there or would never have been there before!
Sorry mara just me letting off a bit of steam - happens sometimes when I open the second bottle of Merlot!
Through my experiences only this isn't exactly the case. I would say there's no difference and that I know both men and women who are open about their illnesses but still people will not want to talk about it because of the stigma. There's 3 posters on here who have come forward with confirmed diagnoses of bi-polar and we have always seemed to chat openly about it, all men as well. I know another poster on here is being assessed for bi-polar as they have come to me in private to ask many questions and he has already told me if diagnosed he will be open and honest with posters on here, like he always has been. Good luck It's not just down to people to understand, I believe to get this out in the open and remove the taboo then people with mental illnesses have a huge role to play in coming forward and talking about it. Not everybody will feel comfortable doing that which must be respected, but if enough people continue to come forward then hopefully we can start knocking down some barriers
Nah mate I wasn't implying that people with illnesses just 'deal with it', but if life chucks you lemons you either make lemonade or you perish. This guy has been dealt lemons and took it out on everybody else. There's a bit too much patient confidentiality going on in this case, the docs have to be given the power to make judgement calls at some point. I've had my own mental health issues, some dark days are behind me, I sympathise with anybody who suffers, but this guy does not represent all, or any depressed people, only himself.
As with every mental health case, every case on it's own merits, Everybody deals with it in their own ways, ways of coping vary and levels of depression and it's effects many. There's a fine line between confidentiality. I think a big problem, certainly in this country is GPs don't need any mental health problems, most tend to reach for the prescription and sick note pads, the mental health resources aren't there to refer everybody so untrained GPs are making untrained assessments mental health. I'm sure you've heard of the crisis team? My Mum knows a man who works on the Darlington crisis team. He said he can count on one hand when a GP has contacted them over concerns about a patients well being. Most of the time, it's the police or casualty departments who contact them once a major incident as already occurred. I we can get GPs to recognise the signs and use crisis teams, then there's the possibility to set up a system where the experts can determined whether an employer needs to be informed and Confidentiality null and void. As it stands GPs aren't qualified to asses the patients let alone judge when confidentiality can be ignored and employers informed. Fact is we're light years from being in a position to come to a solution to solve the OPs faults.
See I don't fella, I don't think the GPs have the qualifications to invoke this power and getting into the system can be extremely difficult. GPs shouldn't be writing sick notes for mental health, they don't know what they're doing. This should come from experts but with the way it's under funded that's impossible too. If ran this country I'd put a mental health specialist in every doctors surgery. There's no front line mental health service which comes into play before things go to far, that's scary, very worrying.
Bri, you know a bit about what's been going on with me. I rang my community treatment centre, on Thursday, to speak with my CPN and was told she was having the day off. I was told to speak with my psychiatrist but he was working at the hospital so I needed to ring them, which I did. Got told he wasn't available and what was it about, I told them about my concerns about slipping into a psychosis mood due to the amount I've been rapid cycling lately and lack of sleep (I've had 4 and a half hours since Monday), I was told somebody would call me back straightaway, obviously. I'm still waiting for the call. Desperate times calls for desperate measures... I feel like going down there and tying one of the ****ers up until I get answers about why for third time I'm being failed. Why are they failing to return calls? It's not good enough, I won't though.
