George Galloway has been criticised by anti-rape campaigners after suggesting Julian Assange was accused of nothing more than "bad sexual etiquette". Mr Assange is wanted in Sweden to face allegations - which he denies - of sexual assault made by two women. The Respect MP said the women's claims were "totally unproven" and the Wikileaks founder had been "set up". Rape charity Crisis said Mr Galloway's comments were "offensive" and "deeply concerning". The UK has said Mr Assange must be extradited to Sweden despite being given political asylum by Ecuador. Mr Assange remains in the Ecuadorean embassy in London, where he has taken refuge, but the UK has said he will not be given safe passage to the Latin American country. 'Bad manners' Mr Assange insists that he had consensual sex with each of the women who have made allegations against him. Continue reading the main story â Start Quote If the allegations made by these two women were true, 100 per cent true, and even if a camera in the room captured them, they don't constitute rapeâ End Quote George Galloway His legal team has said he wants assurances from the Swedish government that he will not be extradited to the US - where Wikileaks caused a storm last year by publishing thousands of leaked diplomatic cables and correspondence. Mr Galloway, a frequent critic of the US and UK governments, said Mr Assange's "only crime was to expose, through Wikileaks, malfeasance by states including our own and the US on a truly gargantuan scale". In a thirty minute podcast, the controversial anti-war MP said it was "an extraordinary coincidence that public enemy number one, Julian Assange, somehow gets inveigled with two women with incredibly complex political backgrounds who just, at the right time, come forward with allegations of sexual misconduct against him". "Let me tell you, I think that Julian Assange's personal sexual behaviour is sordid, disgusting, and I condemn it," he said. "But even taken at its worst, if the allegations made by these two women were true, 100 per cent true, and even if a camera in the room captured them, they don't constitute rape. "At least not rape as anyone with any sense can possibly recognise it. And somebody has to say this." 'Factually incorrect' The Bradford West MP suggested one of the women had claimed she invited Mr Assange back to her flat, had consensual sex with him and then "woke up to him having sex with her again - something which can happen, you know". On the issue of whether this would constitute rape or not, Mr Galloway suggested that "not everybody needs to be asked prior to each insertion". "Some people believe that when you go to bed with somebody, take off your clothes, and have sex with them and then fall asleep, you're already in the sex game with them. "It might be really bad manners not to have tapped her on the shoulder and said, 'do you mind if I do it again?' "It might be really sordid and bad sexual etiquette, but whatever else it is, it is not rape or you bankrupt the term rape of all meaning." Rape Crisis said the MP's understanding of what constituted rape appeared to be "factually incorrect" and that if the woman concerned was asleep when the sexual encounter began, consent could not "reasonably" have been given. "Having had consensual sex with a woman once does not give a man licence to then have sex with her again at any time and in any way he pleases and assume consent is given," a spokeswoman said. "By the same token, having had consensual sex with someone once does not mean a woman has forever forfeited her right to withdraw or refuse her consent to further sex with that person. "Sex without consent is rape. Mr Galloway's description of such sexual violence as 'really bad manners' is offensive and deeply concerning." Mr Galloway was not available for comment. Legal differences There are differences in the law regarding rape in the UK and Sweden. In the UK, a rape has been committed if there is intentional penetration without consent and if the accused "does not reasonably believe" that consent has been given. The maximum sentence is life imprisonment although Rape Crisis says the average sentence is four years. In Sweden, there are gradations in the legal definition of rape - each carrying different sentences. The most serious kind, involving major violence, carries a sentence of ten years. The concept of "regular rape", still involving violence but not of the most extreme kind, and "unlawful coercion", where for instance emotional pressure may have been applied, carry sentences of six and four years respectively. ---------------------------------- So Georgie thinks that banging a bird while she is sleeping is NOT rape but just bad manners. Is this guy for real?
A bloke has sex with some slapper, they both fall asleep naked and he wakes up later and slips her another length while she still slumbers. ****ing outrageous, the **** should be banged up for 30 years I should also be banged up for 30 years as sometimes when my misses is asleep I slip one into her giving her a rude awakening.
"It might be really bad manners not to have tapped her on the shoulder and said, 'do you mind if I do it again?' FFS.
The rape allegations are indeed as suspicious as they are timely. Doesn't mean he didn't do it, though. Also heard a report on the radio that what he accused of in Sweden is not "rape" as we would understand it, but more like a misdemenour(sp) offence. Didn't catch exactly what he is accused of, but Georgey seems to suggest he went for second helpings without consent. I've done that. Thank **** the wimmin in question woke up and joined in rather than screamed rape. Never crossed my mind that a bit of sleepy sex could even be rape.
I know Squiggy. I was dangling my line for Medro so we could get to the real reason he posted this thread: Big, Bad Celtic Fan Condones Rape (and probably child abuse too)
Me too and I'm now realising that if I abide by this my sex life will reduce by 50% as there's always little or no resistance when shes sleeping.
How about if your pumping her and you stop and she sucks your cock for a while, do you then have to get her consent to resume pumping?
I know. Some of the best sex I've ever had has been sleepy sex. The ex missus loved it. I think however, that because she was half asleep she was probably dreaming she was ****in sumbdy else.
