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Why is it so obvious that Daniel James is a diver, but VAR keeps letting him win penalties!? He doesn't get fouled, he throws himself into defenders and rolls on the floor. What is the point in VAR if they regularly say that is a Penalty?! He's a cheat! And he keeps getting rewarded for it! Just because he is small, young, fast and plays for Man United. If those happed to Argos, I bet he would have got 0 penalties from the same situations.
 
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Why is it so obvious that Daniel James is a diver, but VAR keeps letting him win penalties!? He doesn't get fouled, he throws himself into defenders and rolls on the floor. What is the point in VAR if they regularly say that is a Penalty?! He's a cheat! And he keeps getting rewarded for it! Just because he is small, young, fast and plays for Man United. If those happed to Argos, I bet he would have got 0 penalties from the same situations.

Maybe VAR is trained off ref decisions so have 'big team bias' played into it so that it doesn't change things too much....
 
Maybe VAR is trained off ref decisions so have 'big team bias' played into it so that it doesn't change things too much....
The refs don't seem to matter.

It's gone from "Var doesn't want to butt in and undermine the ref"

to "f**k you ref, we decide it is this!"

The ref was so certain the Godfrey one wasn't a pen. VAR gave it.

...What happened to the ref having the last say and control of the game?

Just depends who the sides are.

If it was a Brighton Vs Norwich. I doubt the Godfrey one gets given. If it was a top 6 side against a "lesser Club", there is no way that would ever get given.

We were hopeful VAR would stop us getting f**ked over. Nope, they just change the rules depending on the sides. Nothing has changed. A penalty for Man United isn't a Penalty for Norwich City. It's exactly the same as before, it just takes much longer to f**k us over.
 
Apparently, they are going to look at actually USING pitch side monitors rather than some faceless referee watching umpteen replays and making collosal gaffes.
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Like you FML, I was HOPING that VAR would improve the standard of refereeing, but IMO, it's made it umpteen times worse. :emoticon-0121-angry
 
Apparently, they are going to look at actually USING pitch side monitors rather than some faceless referee watching umpteen replays and making collosal gaffes.
Way to go! The on-field ref who (correctly) didn't penalise Godfrey should have the benefit of extra camera angles and slow-mo to vindicate his decision. Not some pro Manure keyboard warrior sitting in a control room somewhere far away. <grr>
 
Way to go! The on-field ref who (correctly) didn't penalise Godfrey should have the benefit of extra camera angles and slow-mo to vindicate his decision. Not some pro Manure keyboard warrior sitting in a control room somewhere far away. <grr>
IMO, it's how the system was intended to be used and NOT as another NCFC fan said VR -ie 'Video Refereeing'; such as we have seen in ALL cases where it has been used to date!!! :emoticon-0121-angry
 
Good luck Col_Who Mike.

And here's that Carabao Cup quarter-final draw again in full...

  • Oxford United v Manchester City
  • Manchester United v Colchester United
  • Aston Villa v Liverpool
  • Everton v Leicester City
The ties are to be played the week commencing 16 December.

Just went on their forum to wish them luck - no posts since March 2018 <doh>
But.....

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......... And this is the moment Col U players reacted to the draw .....]
Yes, but rather spoiled by sight of the video camera filming the occasion for the club website or local media! How can you get anything but a staged reaction when the participants know they are being filmed?
 
That doesn't matter, and isn't the reason they are trying to start fights.
I wasn't offering an analysis of the reasons behind the seemingly endless squabbling. I was trying to offer a reasoned alternative that everyone could subscribe to. If those on either side see no merit in my suggestion, so be it; but I, and I suspect many others, am heartily fed up with it.
 
Yes, but rather spoiled by sight of the video camera filming the occasion for the club website or local media! How can you get anything but a staged reaction when the participants know they are being filmed?
It isn't weird for the media to film it, is it? Not often they get to that stage, and seemed a pretty genuine reaction to me.
 
It isn't weird for the media to film it, is it? Not often they get to that stage, and seemed a pretty genuine reaction to me.
Not at all odd to be filming it, but what you then have is a staged response, not the spontaneous reaction it purports to be.
 
Not at all odd to be filming it, but what you then have is a staged response, not the spontaneous reaction it purports to be.
So you're saying they knew who they were going to be drawn against in advance, and not just thrilled to be drawn against one of the 'big' teams? :grin:

Seems a bit harsh, I didn't look at it like that at all. I bet old Col_U Mike almost ejaculated!
 
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Why is it so obvious that Daniel James is a diver, but VAR keeps letting him win penalties!? He doesn't get fouled, he throws himself into defenders and rolls on the floor. What is the point in VAR if they regularly say that is a Penalty?! He's a cheat! And he keeps getting rewarded for it! Just because he is small, young, fast and plays for Man United. If those happed to Argos, I bet he would have got 0 penalties from the same situations.
I think the problem is the Premier League deciding against pitch side monitors, which allow the ref to view the images on which the VAR referee"s decision is based. The European leagues using VAR, and FIFA and UEFA, all operate the pitch side monitor system. The point is that the match referee will then only change his original decision if the VAR images show him something of significance happening in the incident, that he didn't appreciate as happening when making his on-pitch decision. EPL should introduce pitch side monitors.
 
I wasn't offering an analysis of the reasons behind the seemingly endless squabbling. I was trying to offer a reasoned alternative that everyone could subscribe to. If those on either side see no merit in my suggestion, so be it; but I, and I suspect many others, am heartily fed up with it.
Oh, I am bored to tears by getting attacked for things that really don't matter.

It's the main reason I post far less on here.
 
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Oh, I am bored to tears by getting attacked for things that really don't matter.

It's the main reason I post far less on here.

If that's your idea of 'being attacked' FML, then god helo you when you grow up and reach the real world.
And while I'm here, both you and Dave need your bloody heads banging together the pair of you.
Either you grow up and Dave stop being Victor Meldrew, or you two, as CC mentioende ealier, flounce off to your own thread and we will make it private just for you two.
FFS man, I take it you read the local news?
There's far more important things happening in the world, outside of you getting the bloody hump everytime somebody posts in the wrong ****ing thread!
 
If that's your idea of 'being attacked' FML, then god helo you when you grow up and reach the real world.
And while I'm here, both you and Dave need your bloody heads banging together the pair of you.
Either you grow up and Dave stop being Victor Meldrew, or you two, as CC mentioende ealier, flounce off to your own thread and we will make it private just for you two.
FFS man, I take it you read the local news?
There's far more important things happening in the world, outside of you getting the bloody hump everytime somebody posts in the wrong ****ing thread![/

I constantly said I was trying to talk about football. I don't know what your problem is.