In interview with the BBC regarding our new commercial deals, Gazidis has said that we will be able to compete with any club in the world and hinted we would be able to afford the best players available: "As our financial capability develops, as economic rationality enters the world of football, our ability to compete at salary levels for the very best talent will be enhanced," http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20220153
I can sound out Vaz Te for us. He was a cheapy, but seems to be a stonking wing forward with a fair few goals in him. I am meeting him on Monday - shall we say £3mill?
Gazidis is relying on 2 things: * Arsenal's sponsorship renewals * FFP If either of these do not go according to plan, Arsenal will be stuck in their current mediocrity for the forseeable future. FFP is untested, but I have faith in it. I think it'll help to control the ridiculous overseas investment into the league. The sponsorship deals I have far less faith in. If Arsenal miss out on the Top4 this year it'll have a knock-on effect next year, and if they miss out then, the sponsorship deals devalue dramatically. Investment is needed in January, and in Summer, to ensure a great season next year, and maximise the sponsorship values. A 30m outlay now could be the difference of 300m in the future, however, the Board just don't seem to be recognising this fact. If Arsenal slip this season, their future could become far more bleak. This is a tipping point, and one which, at present, isn't tipping in the right direction. If Arsenal lose Theo and don't more than adequately replace him in January, I'm not hopeful.
I agree with Bonstar, all i'm hearing is What IF's. After 7 years you'd expect a little better than What IF's. Even IF these 2 things happen, there is no guarantees that the board will release appropriate funds and if Wenger is overly bothered about it. I really don't see anything changing unless we drop out of the top 4. The big question is, will FFP really work? If you look at the way the Champions League is set out, you soon realise it's all about money. From letting teams as low down as 4th enter the competition to extortionate TV rights, it's hard to tell whether they want to restrict the flow of money from the Oil barons. More silly money flooding the football markets, the more their pockets become lined.
FFP can work And if they're serious about it then it will. People keep harping on about Lawyers getting involved etc. but it's an INVITED competition. You are invited to participate, and you can decline if you wish. UEFA don't HAVE to invite you, which is why when clubs fall short of certain criteria they are excluded or banned. You can't sue someone for not inviting you to their birthday party, any more than anyone can sue UEFA for not inviting them to participate in the Champions League.
Yes, but what are these people primarily driven by. Will they make a stand for the game or continue to line their pockets. Only time will tell.
True. But it is also an economic reality for UEFA there money comes from sponsorship and TV revenue like any football management body and I imagine the companies have major influence. FFP effects clubs such as Chelsea (posted a profit in last accounts but obviously doesn't take into account spending in the summer), PSG, Anzhi (that russian club) Valencia, Malaga, Barcelona (they were close to breaking even last season tbf), Man city, PSG,. In a worst case scenario some or all of these clubs could be kicked out of CL (probably more teams if you include euro cup) and then sponsors may well pull out or decrease contracts something I imagine Uefa cant afford. Not to mention how they will deal with backend deals ala Manc City Etihad Deal. So while I do believe it will curtail spending and contracts in the long run it wont really amount to much. People have to remember that sponsors, TV's and Clubs have all the power which has been proven countless times. At the actual OP I agree with Bondstar where it sounds very much a What if scenario when this happens scenario, he is basically saying we will continue the way we have and he expects other clubs to be brought down to us and not us make the effort to reach up.
Im not sure this is entirely true, Liverpool have gotten massive sponsorship deals in the last couple of years and they have gone completely downhill. It would only have a small impact on the ability to attract large sponsorship deals as arsenal are still one of the most well known and respected clubs in the world.
Put your money where your mouth is. For the past 4-5 years we've had Wenger saying "we're not afraid to spend big" and Gazidis bragging about our 'financial results'. Edison Cavani would be perfect please Mr Gazidis.
As seen with the Etihad deal, teams are already starting to find a way around it. It's so predictable. http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/1164533/psg-in-talks-over-new-sponsorship-deal?cc=5739
Exactly. Even if the Man City owners are banned from sponsoring their team with their own companies abroad, they will make deals with other companies that require those other companies to sponsor Man City. The money will get through somehow.
The way I see it, we have definitely been disadvantaged financially compared to City, Chelsea and Utd over the last 8 years, so it's no doubt we've struggled to compete with them. It seems that over the last year or two we've consolidated our finances, but the club have been criticised for not going out and spending it all in one go. We're now entering a position where not only have our immediate finances been ironed out, but we're about to negotiate some really good deals that will increase our ability to spend with less risks. I know people want to talk about 'what about the last 8 years' but I honestly believe that we're about to see a new phase for our club. The proof of course is in the pudding. And I think we all want lashings of rich sweet dessert
So Gazidis is promising big things, THEREFORE, don't come moaning at me later on if no progress is being made and fans like me vent, because this board always makes grand statements that the glory is coming, and then f--k all happens.
I don't know where the initial assuption, by so many Arsenal fans, that Arsenal "should win something" comes from. I'm hopeful, but I certainly wouldn't say that we had more than a vague outside chance of winning a trophy. I think with our improved finances that we have a better chance, but we still will not ever have a better chance of winning than Manchester City, Chelsea or Manchester United. That means that we must have far less than a 1/4 chance of winning the league every year, less for the CL, maybe 1/10 under the current system? We could easily go another 30 years without a trophy, unless the rules change.
I just want us to compete. The last time we did that was 2008. I'd be happy with another season like that because we had a squad capable of winning the league. We haven't given ourselves the tools to succeed in recent seasons.
