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Garry Monk Post-Match vs Leicester

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  1. bigkidderz

    bigkidderz Well-Known Member

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    "Example" - Direct quotes from Garry Monk.
    "Example" - My thoughts.

    "It was a poor first half from us. Those first two goals were extremely soft. The first one was clearly handball, the second was clearly offside, but the results haven't been good enough in this period."

    "Poor first half"...so he starts off with honesty, before going on to blame anyone but himself. The first goals were extremely soft - one handball and one offside. They were...but what about the other two one-on-ones that Leicester failed to take? Leicester absolutely dominated us on the break yesterday and there can be no arguments about the scoreline. We deserved to be hammered, and had Leicester needed more goals, they probably wouldn't put their foot on the accelerator and got them. While individual quality was clearly on display for both sides, there were huge differences in teamwork, energy and structure.

    "The results haven't been good enough in this period". Garry...are you that naive to think that it's just the results that are worrying? It's the performances...the gutless, spineless, lackadaisical, ponderous displays that have not only has left us without points, but without any form of credibility to launch an argument that we actually deserved anything from a game. Remember the days where we'd lose to a team and bemoan our luck? That we'd dominated the game and the chances but still lost? We no longer even have that credibility. We're just being dominated and losing. We deserve to lose football matches at the moment. There is nothing good to take away from these games.


    "I feel sorry for the fans. We're not playing like this club can play, like these players can play."

    "Feel sorry for the fans". "Feeling sorry" is something that people from the outside do. I feel sorry for a lot of people in this world. However, if I'm the one causing the hurt and sadness, I can't "feel sorry" for the people that I'm affecting. If I feel sorry, it means I'm recognising that I'm doing something wrong but haven't got the balls to come out and either apologise or do something about it, I'd be detaching myself from the situation. Don't feel sorry for us Garry, just do your job properly or leave. If you feel sorry for us, you obviously know that your team is serving up dross, so do something to put it right instead of serving up the same formation and tactics week-in, week-out.

    "We're not playing like this club can play, like these players can play". Really? And why's that, Garry? Blaming the players yet again? If we're not playing like the club can play, it's because the manager isn't setting the team up properly. If the players aren't playing like they can play, either you've lost the dressing room or the manager is inhibiting his players strengths by setting his team up in a way that doesn't compliment his players abilities. When have we ever not played with width in the last 10 years? When have we ever not played with pace? When have we ever not played with two wingers? Even last season with Dyer and Routledge ever present playing their worst football in Swans shirts and Montero showing short flashes of brilliance between his many injuries, we still managed to finish 8th. Yes, we used a diamond at times, played poor football but showed willingness to compete at least, we don't even have that now. It seems that since Monk has been in charge he's been trying to fix what wasn't broken, and now is refusing to fix our team after he's broken it. It's either refusal or ignorance to any problems he's created. Either is unacceptable.


    "It's very difficult to analyse and put your finger on it. The results aren't acceptable and I'm fully aware of that, and it's up to me to put it right."

    "It's a very difficult moment for the club. We need to realise it's a serious situation and, whatever happens, those players in the changing room are the only ones who can change it. They're more than capable. It's about looking deep inside yourself, working harder than you ever have done before and making sure the club gets to where it should be - whether that's me or anyone else."

    Difficult to analyse and put your finger on it? Come on, Garry. It's not difficult to analyse that Leicester's third was scored in the absence of a DM on the pitch. It's not hard to analyse that Taylor is out of his depth at the moment, Ki has no motivation, Shelvey has slipped back to how he was at the start of last season. It's not hard to analyse that we can't string 5 passes together. It's not hard to analyse that Ayew drifting off his wing all the time is unbalancing the team. These are all simple things that Monk can rectify. One press release and being dropped for a few games last season transformed Shelvey - why has Monk seemingly lost the balls to crack the whip when required this season?

    Why does Monk go on about the players needing to perform better? I'm pretty sure our players know that the situation is serious...but when they can see that their manager isn't willing to change anything regarding tactics, isn't that going to be disheartening? Gylfi taking the field and seeing Ayew out on a wing again...knowing that he's going to eat into his space and limit his chances. Is it any wonder that Gylfi got two cracking shots away once we reverted to two proper wingers? The players have been working hard (bar some exceptions) in many of the games, trying their best, but I'll say it again, you can work as hard as you want in a failing system, you'll still lose and draw more than you win until the system is put right. And the longer that system continues to fail, the harder it is to psychologically motivate yourself to go again the next week. As long as Monk fails to see that and stays in charge, we'll continue to slide.

    "Those players in the changing room are the only ones who can change it." Garry...they aren't the only ones who can change it. You can too. And you are responsible for changing it. So either change it, or let someone else change it.

    And to finish...
    "I feel a better manager than I've ever been."
    If that's the case and he stays any longer, may God help us all.
     
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    seabreeze Well-Known Member

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    Was painful to watch , especially the "I"m a better manager now than at anytime last season " Of all the one liners I've heard from him ,this one stands alone in it's bizarreness ....
     
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  3. LIBERTARIAN

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    The, "I'm a better manager now than at anytime last season",would appear to be the words of a man in a real state of delusion.

    The end cannot be too far off for G.M. I'm beginning to feel sorry for him. Perhaps he now knows what Laudrup felt,and went through.
     
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    Unfortunately,from the P.L. Manger's standpoint,they have to give post match interviews.
    It's all part of the big money deals,and the world has to suffer the inane outpourings of people whose team has just been torn to shreds.
    When they have little positive to say,they turn to soundbites,irrelevancies,etc.,and anything they can muster, before sliding away.
    Maurinho,for instance,is in a similar place to Monk,with nothing positive to relate,and he is now repeating himself,and looking a right fool.
     
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    Yeah, this is true. You'd think that Monk would at least be given some PR coaching before going out to give his interviews though. He's making himself look like an idiot, blaming/putting pressure on the players, and dragging the clubs reputation down with him while doing it. Unprofessionalism from the board to just allow Monk to go in and speak his mind at a press conference without loading him up with answers during the week for any eventuality.
     
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    Post match interviews are a doddle when you've won,or even drawn.
    Hapless,losing, performances are the bane of Mangers. For what can they say other than,"soft penalty against us;three offside goals;we should have had a dozen penalties,but the referee didn't see any of them",etc.,etc.,etc.
    All so embarrassing.

    It all comes down to style,honesty and decency.and football seems to lack these three qualities.

    Laudrup had them in spades,however. <laugh>
     
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    To be fair, just watched Laudrup's last post-match interview and you are right about that. (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25892174). Still doesn't change my mind that it was the right time for him to go, but he was honest and didn't resort to schpiel or nonsense.
     
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    No argument from me re his going,but the man has a lot of class. <cheers>
     
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    So what's he saying - we finished 8th last season despite him being the Manager?
     
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    With a statement like that , it could only be a guess at what he was saying .
    Like someone said , he should have been coached on how to take on interviews because most of what he says is fuddle fuddle
     
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    Taffvalerowdy Well-Known Member

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    I think he must either have learnt himself - or been told - to never blame yourself! He's blamed the fans, he's blamed the players, he's blamed the officials ..... but never himself.
     
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    I hope your feeling better after that rant?...................<laugh>




    Though I do agree with you, and I think most Jacks see the issues, it's why most now see Monk is incapable of turning this around and are now resigned to his departure, such a shame after last season, but to me Monk has lost his way, and more than likely the dressing room........<ok>
     
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    I always hate when he says " I'm not making excuses but ......" Makes whatever hair I have left stand up .
     
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    Monk is under considerable pressure,and the stress is beginning to take it's toll.
    Expect him to say things that,a) he wouldn't normally say,and b) make little sense.
    Just remember he has to stand in front of a multi million audience for Match of the day,and somehow explain the shambles that he rules over,without breaking down. That's a tough place to be.
    Then he has to confront the media at large,who are all looking for a story,especially the "what's gone wrong,Gary",story.
    Then he has to deal with his bosses.
    Then he has to deal with the fans',and their ire.
    Then he has to deal with himself,and his shortcomings,viz,"am I really good enough","should I resign",etc.
    This is mental breakdown country,and he needs some help.
    Monk is in a difficult place,and has to learn new coping skills,since he is in new territory.
    For his sake,I hope the Club recognise the place he is in,even if they didn't for his predecessor,and give him that help.
     
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    Matthew Bound Still Lurks Well-Known Member

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    I do feel uneasy reading some posts not only on here but on other sites which now contain personal insults towards a manger who wrongly as it now has been proven is not capable of managing this club at this level , thats not to say he won't be a success elsewhere at lower level where imo he should have started .Without written or verbal proof of the man's personality I take his commitment to the club as being total so to now read the abuse he's receiving doesn't for me make pleasant reading.
    He will lose his job and possibly a future as a coach in a profession he's been in since a boy and yes I understand he'll end up a rich man but sometimes is that everything.Nobody what ever happens should come out of this particular episode with any feelings of satisfaction .
    IMO
     
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    Haha it was a pretty solid rant! Definitely felt much better after it. I was looking for a thread to post it on as I didn't initially want my own, but couldn't see a thread that I'd feel comfortable hijacking with such a monstrous post, so just created my own :emoticon-0110-tongu

    Certainly a shame. Last season was a hell of a run and a lot of fun, however there was always an undertone of poor football along the way, but while there was battle, desire and results, I could live with it. Since we've lost that battle and desire, we look little more than a League 1 side. In fact, in the same way that we dispatched then Premier League Sheffield United 0-3 in the FA Cup, I expect our struggling also-rans to eventually get pumped out of the FA Cup by some lower league opposition - if we lose to Oxford...then things have really hit a new rock bottom.
     
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    If Monk is around for the pre match interview for Man City , you'll be able to here crickets because no one will be able to ask questions . IMO , it may even be cancelled ...
     
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    Great Man City post game interview by Curtis , if I never see another Garry Monk pre or post game interview it will be a good rest of my life .
     
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    Curtis managed the boys very well today, typically like an old pro.............<applause>
     
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