I've seen a lot of anger from you guys towards your soon to be former manager. Now I can understand a lot of this given how our fans were over Torres, but can't understand the hatred in itself. This isn't meant to be patronizing, not all of our fans have inflated opinions of our club, but here's some things that amongst your red mist might help you come to terms with the move. Brendan Rodgers leaves you in a great position. His going leaves you at a point where you are established in the Premiership. If he'd gone last summer i could understand, but if Jenkins gets his replacement right then you're rosy. Rodgers turned down the initial approach out of respect to the club. Only knowing interest was firm would he talk to us, which suggests he does care for the club a great deal. Imagine you as Swansea fans are managing Norwich (not managing the club you support) and say... Arsenal come along. What would you honestly do? You'd still care about your current club, but if interest was firm you'd want to hear what Arsenal had to say. Look at how he's gone about it compared to Paul Lambert, and we're a much bigger proposition than Villa. Swansea don't even have training facilities. Liverpool are looking to build a new stadium, will give him millions to spend every year and have a squad of players that fill many national teams. We know we aren't the dream proposition we were a few years ago but that's got to be a great opportunity. Mancini, Ferguson and Wenger could all be there for years. Chelsea is a revolving door. Redknapp is safe for a year or 2 and Tottenham's money has dried up. We're the biggest opportunity in British football for the foreseeable future and there may not an opportunity of this type for a good few years. It's all well and good saying he should have stayed a little longer, but this opportunity might not be there for him in a couple of years time. Rodgers has a young family- this move will secure his future if nothing else. Quite a good thing for a guy who has toiled as a coach for 15 years. Rodgers is a student of Mourinho- he is going to have a certain arrogance and belief he can move up the ladder quickly. Fortunately for you guys he hasn't left Swansea as barren as Mourinho leaves most of his clubs. You will get a good £4-5million compensation (Rodgers reportedly requested this as part of his contract but i can't confirm that) which is a signing in itself, and a set of players comfortable on the ball, which will help any new manager coming in. You shouldn't have the mad panic of scrapping around for points here and there with long ball football. You have a minimum level of passing play regardless. I understand it can be painful but don't let this affect your optimism. We applauded you guys off the pitch this season so you should know we're not as bad as made out to be. Also don't be fooled, the majority of our fans are glad to have Rodgers as manager, he will be given time. We don't chop and change managers and do indeed support them. We only turned on Hodgson for reasons many opposition fans choose to ignore but which you may enjoy seeing this summer. Apart from that we have backed every manager we've ever had! Good luck next season, hope you go from strength to strength, and we look forward to hopefully taking more than a point off you next season!
Already moved on. He did well for us and we did well for him. Hope he get's the patience you mention but if he comes back for our players .... **** him. cheers
we're over him. BR was brought in to coach the swansea way he did it well to a point but was a work in progress. the club will move forward and we trust that whoever Jenkins brings in will stay true to our footballing philosophy and take us to the next level. BR's reputation at swansea will be determined in the next few days, if siggy signs for us and he leaves our better players alone then he will be respected, if not then **** him indeed. hope for his sake the kop warms to the beauty of the back pass to reina
Skrtel Nips - thanks for the really decent post. It is refreshing to hear from a Liverpool fan that's not stuck in the past living on former glory. good day to you Sir.
Great post. If he doesn't try to nick our players, Siggy included, then good luck to him. If he does, I'll hunt the bastard down myself.
I don't feel any anger to him, just let down a bit, if he was open and said he's interested in the position a couple of weeks ago I think most people would wish him well, but he's left now and I wish the best. If he does come calling for players he knows he will have to pay mightily for them.
There have been some good posts from Swans fans and very little anger. Good luck with whoever replaces Rodgers.
Not sure about that, there was a fair bit of anger yesterday, both directed at Brendan and then, bizarrely, at each other. I think now the dust is settling however, most of us are looking towards the future and ready to move on. Still think it will be a tricky couple of weeks for the club, but trust me, we've been through MUCH worse
Good honest post. The reason most of us are so miffed is, well, if it hadn't been for the Swans he could still be on the scrapheap right now and he could have EASILY stayed another year. If he IS as good as he thinks he is, he'll easily get a move to a "big club" - he's only 39 so he's got more than ample time for that. You say he only spoke once interest was firm - that's a bit weird - surely if Liverpool approach the Swans then that's firm interest? Regardless of whether it's the first or the second time, it's still firm interest! We know you're a much bigger club but as has been said, he said a few weeks ago it would be unfair on the fans so all he's done is make it worse. You mention the training facilities - well we're about to build some and Buck was supposed to oversee that. Guess that isn't happening! If he gets the time he needs at Liverpool I'll be amazed, and I'm not saying the fans will turn on him, I just think the board won't have the patience to watch their team stutter. He may get off to a flyer and fair play if he does, but there's also the chance he'll bomb. Look at it this way, he's had 2 successful jobs - Swansea and Watford. Both times he went to a club essentially set up for him. At Reading he had to change things drastically an he bombed, and I think the only thing that differs is he now has a bigger ego and believes that won't happen at Liverpool... let's wait and see eh! You make the point about him being "set up for life" - well, I'm sorry, if earning, what do we think, 12/13kpw at the Swans doesn't count as "set up for life" then you're a greedy money-orientated ****er. That's over half a mil a year and he'd signed a 3 year contract, so with bonuses he could buy himself a nice house, a few nice cars and with some clever investment he'd never have to work again...but he will so he's never going to be short of money. The whole "getting a payday contract" thing is, to me, another way of saying "They got greedy". As you say, I hope he's given time but I don't see it. I don't expect him to last the season but fair play if he does, I'll stand corrected. Good luck for the season and all that but I won't be applauding Buck again.
I'm sorry to be the party pooper but that is a load of nonsense. Even Alan "Liverpool 'till I die" Hansen has said that your club is on it's knees. Rodgers is a step in the right direction for you in so much as Kenny Dalglish clearly didn't have a clue what he was doing or who he was buying, the owners saw it and turfed him out after he wasted all their money and led a squad full of supposed Internationals to a woeful finish in the Premier League, only 5 points off Swansea I might add. Don't get me wrong, Liverpool are a huge football club that have achieved great things domestically and in Europe, but there is an argument for this being a backwards step for Rodgers in all but the money department. Liverpool seem like a poisoned chalice at the moment. Having a Director Of Football, if that materialises, is just going to confound matters. I hope Brendan does well. He's a cracking bloke that has done wonderful things for Swansea City FC, but he's hardly going to Barcelona, let's not dress this up TOO much.
Excellent post that has brought some sense to the recent vitriolic madness posted by some 'fans' of ours on here. We gave Rodgers a break by taking a leap of faith in a failed manager and he repaid us by getting us to the Prem. We're even. To me he will always be a Swansea hero for what happened exactly a year ago and I make no apologies for that but as others have pointed out he inherited a really good squad that were already playing 'the right way' under Martinez and Sousa. His killer touch was bringing in Sinclair and successfully distilling what we had. I've said elsewhere I can't wish him luck as he's going to a Prem rival but I for one think we owe Rodgers an awful lot. My own view is that he's made a huge mistake as have Liverpool's owners. A successful Championship campaign and one decent season in the Prem should never be enough for you guys. I really don't think he'll have the time to do anything, and lose 5 or six games out of ten and he's probably history. If he proves me wrong then fair enough. Lastly, I agree with others that if he does come back and start cherry picking our players then my benevolent opinion of Mr Rodgers will start to tumble pretty rapidly.
Good post I think we were all hoping that BR would be our own Ferguson and build us up, help build the academy and leave a true lasting legacy. We felt he was in a good place to build his career (as he stated when he was touted for Chelsea) and feel he's taking a big risk at Liverpool. if he doesn't get top 4 will he get the support or be out the door? We know we're a little club in an out of the way part of the world but were just hoping that in the mercenarial world of football there was a glimmer of hope that someone was honourable. Those hopes are firmly dashed and with Lambert jumping ship it proves a lot in my eyes. Considering the risk we took on him and the support we've given him I felt we were worth another year at least. We'll move onwards and upwards and I've full faith in our chairman to get the right man to take over. Good luck for the season
I think I feel the same as a lot of other people here. A) I wish he'd said he was interested when he said he wasn't. B) I wish him all the best, he has a great ethos and could do really well for Liverpool. C) I won't be so nice if he starts raiding our team. Good luck. It should be an interesting season for both of us.
I bet he`s hoping the season starts kindly for him and not begin with man.c away then ,utd,swans away,spurs etc all following closely together for a poor run of losses as a start for him ! If he comes back sniffing round our club for players and staff i hope the swans curse hits him bigger than all the others who let us down. Iff he stays away and no probs with siggy then good luck to him he is history now !
Just read Mark Lawrenson saying "The chance to manage a club in the top 10 in the country is too good to resist". The Swans finished 11th because of 1 goal scored. Bloody muppet.
As its been mentioned quite a bit again the training facilities/academy needs sorting fast while the moneys in place !!
I don`t understand all this "secure his future" nonsense. He`s been well paid fir the last two years, got a very big bonus after the play-off win and got a million quid bonus for keeping us in the premier league. Just how much money do you need to "secure your future", obviously a lot more than most people can only dream about. It`s like him winning the lottery two years running. I "toiled" for 40 years in a job that was manually intensive, and for a lot less money. O.K. it`s not as hard as being a coach, but you get my point. Just to clarify things, I`m not bitter, I just wish he had been a bit more honest over the last few weeks. He`s gone now, he`s part of our history. I don`t wish him any ill, but it will be interesting how much slack he`ll be given, if results don`t go as planned.
A good post. As long as we stay up comfortably next season (even if we don't know it until the end) and he does not poach any of our players (OR SIGGY D:<) I will understand. Otherwise he's a massive twat EDIT - Forgot to mention, as the person above said, I'm dissapointed with his conduct though. Upping and leaving with the timing he did etc.
He's gone and thanks good bye and blah.... Agreed I will only be really upset depending on the further impact. i.e who he takes etc.... It keeps being bounded about of Brendan's style and how he got Swansea playing... Sick to the back teeth hearing this - he did not implement this system! He inherited a team that already plays that way... I can't deny he appeared to be a great manager for us and from the reports that come from the team, he was well liked and a very good coach. I also was gutted to see him go, but lets face some truth.. Season 1, inherits a great team pushing forward in that style anyway.. Yes he brought in Scott Sinclair... but sorry Scott Sinclair did not single handedly get us to the premier league... Season 2, 1st in Premier league - I can't take anything away as a team led by Brenda we did superbly - again though he is driving a team that already play that style (he's a man to do it). Season 3 - well we will never know - would have been his time to prove that we could have pushed on or at least sustained... (this would have been the time to demonstrate how good a manager he is imho). History showed that he was not very successful trying to change a team in to the style that Swansea already play... It's to be seen whether Liverpool have the patience to wait until the team transition to imitate the Swansea Style (credit to us init....) Or will he have the extotionate funds to revamp the team over the summer.... I think lots of people are upset, not because they are against him having the opportunity to manage a big club, but how this could end up for him when he had the Swansea Board and Fans at his mercy... Sorry - he's been tempted by the Devil and sold his soul I will watch with interest.... ......Mean while, I have comfort that it is not Brendan that got us to the premier league and gave us success.. It is, the joint strength of our LOYAL Board, Fans and Players... Therefore I am sure even if we suffer in the short term we will prevail with another manager(s) for the time being and will move forward... STID.
