4 Straight Defeats, 10 Goals conceded in the last 3 games its not looking good for Jewell. Two more defeats and I think he should be shown the door. This is even worse than Keane! The defence is still shockingly poor and we will be lucky to stay up at this rate. ****ing useless the lot of them and I know that Jewell lovers will be out to defend his wonderful managerial record but lets be honest guys we are ****ed with this clueless clown in charge.
I wouldn't classify myself a 'Jewell lover' but I would tend to defend the manager. However, even I'm struggling to see a silver lining to his reign thus far. Conceding two goals in the last ten minutes is so damn typical of Ipswich it's no longer a surprise when it happens, and I've seen hobos with more clean sheets than our defence can muster! Something has got to change, and after some tactical changes and personnel switches, it is fast looking like the manager has to go. That said, he has already shown he is a shrewd dealer in the transfer market (Cresswell, Sonko, Chopra, and the loans of Collins and Andrews) and I think the players should shoulder some of the blame as they are blatantly not performing well enough. They really need to look at themselves and fight to stop Jewell getting the boot. I am going to be one of these irritating guys who says give him until Christmas; I've never been a fan of moving people on too quickly. Not only would this give him a chance to turn it around, it would also give Clegg and co. an opportunity to find a good replacement manager who can take us to the promised land. I'm certain Jewell could do this given enough time, but it is quite likely we'd have to endure some hardships first.
The players need time to gel. It’s a well known fact that no other club brought in new players since last season. Not only that, but we must have managerial consistency. It’s a well known fact that only teams with long-serving managers ever win games. Like Forest today, for example. Also, it’s a very good sign that when we lose it’s without conceding a lot of goals or folding in the last few minutes or generally playing like clueless little girls. Yes - it’s looking very rosy in the long term. I have faith. And please nobody mention that “faith” is belief without evidence. Sometimes I really wish I was religious!
You make some fair and reasonable points Tuck, but how is it going to get any better by Christmas? The shrewd transfer dealings that you speak of have been mostly poor when you consider the injury prone journeymen that he has brought in. Sonko, Inger, Bowyer, Bullard are all past their best and the ony one benefiting from them being here is the physio! Andrews, Collins and Stockdale are loans. Ellington and JET have been a complete waste of time and Chopra with his personal issues is no godd for us atm. Jewell has to walk the plank NOW before we find ourselves in the bottom 3 at Christmas.
I take your point, perhaps I'm going solely on the fact I don't want to be at a club where managers are moved on like a conveyor belt. But then I guess we have to cut our losses before it all goes wrong and there's no way back...
Jonah Sarcasm of the highest quality!! JWM I totally agree with all that you say and have done so for a while, just can't be bothered to shout it out any more, would only get abuse and accused of not being a Town fan!!
JWM again please can your write a post without insighting an argument. We had this conversation a week or so ago, where you just goad people into arguing with you. Now you may have a point it may be one that i disagree with but with how you post, this is clearly going to lead to an argument and slanging match rather than a discussion. Please can you put some constructive points in your argument rather than saying, Jewell is s**t, the players are old and s**t, get rid of the manager bla bla bla. I'm not by any means, as I'm sure most who share my view a Jewell lover, he makes mistakes especially tactically and some of the results we have had are inexcusable with the personnel we have, I do think he could potentially be a good manager for us. But I have seen enough of the good things he has done and the direction he see's the club going in and what he has said to think he deserves quite a bit longer in the job with regard to the state of the club when he took over and the amount of time any manager would have needed to sort us out. If this run continues to the point when we are perhaps in a relegation battle in the new year without improvement fair enough. My expectations were to have an indifferent start to the season and to push on in the 2nd half, I still see this being the case. I did not expect it to be quite this indifferent though, when we've been good we've been really good and when we are bad we've been pretty awful. I am concerned with some of his decisions, as I said in the post when we were 2-1 why he brought JET on for Bowyer, I don't know and stop playing Bullard in the DM position please!! I would argue completely against your point that this is worse than Keane, nothing can be that bad and if it was I think I would actually give up on supporting ITFC all together.
PTC - You may be prepared to give him time to ruin this club completely but I am not and I will not accept anything less than his resignation. He is clearly out of his depth and once we slide into the bottom 3 it will be too late. Our season is practically finished now so thats yet another season of garbage. How much time must he have?
I think the idea of playing Bullard at the back of the diamond is so that he can get things started from there and see more passes and such(i'm not saying its working) i'm sure he is not being told he is a defencive midfielder.
Sorry, JWM, cant agree, though goodness knows we all feel the pain. How & why on earth we roll over last 5 minutes again. I think lots of factors have unsettled the team recently, no real excuse I know, but with Sonks back soon ( absolute key plank in our defence, missed him like hell), Collins on form and Andrews hooter fixed, I have a feeling they could turn it round. No point in sacking a new manager so soon, when, as you say, it's down to the players in the end. So, while very concerned, no gutted about today, I am ready to give them all the benefit of doubt for time being. A win or two works magic and confidence will return I am sure. Decent players with goodish track records, dont become crap overnight!
Nicey Nicey Ipswich fans like sheep! Always happy to offer excuses and always happy to accept rubbish! No wonder we are going backwards.
I have to say that PJ is pushing Keane all the way at the moment. To be honest PTC i can't see what you see in Jewell, i would say that his current record is worse than Keanes with no immediate sign of improvement. Jewells signings have been indifferent, JET and Ellington were poor at best, ok Ellington was free but how much did we blow on JET?? Bowyer/Bullard and loan deal for Andrews were good signings but not to play together, maybe 2 of the three would have been good. My biggest gripe is playing a player (Leadboots) who has refused to sign a new contract, add to this the fact that he ain't all that. Its a disgrace and Jewell needs to sort the midfield out and not be afraid to drop a few supposed big names!
PTC Read your comment on my thread about what you see in Jewell so no need to explain. I don't agree but time will tell and i hope your right for the sake of ITFC. JWM That was my thinking, which is an absolute disgrace. This problem has been going on for tooooo long now and if it isn't sorted immediately we will be in major doodoo!
Spanish have you hacked JWM's account?? I'm getting very confused with who's who here. I have to say so far I am liking the new Spanish and am not feeling the need to respond to insults in a diminutive way. JWM you really do let your current emotion/rage gauge and effect your judgement, sometimes I think you need to step back, calm down and then think about it. I am not prepared to see Jewell ruin this club, something which I do not think he is doing, when he took over our club was already in ruin and on the slide!!! Yes he has made some strange decisions especially tacticully but he needs more time to build a settled side. We have far moree quality in the team than this time last year but at the same time we don't have much balance and nearly all the players who are in the team have only been at Ipswich for 4 months!!! This season for me was always going to be one of transition(or garbage). I would not say Jewell is pushing Keane, although perhaps if you look at the stats, i.e just the results then maybe but taking everything into account I don't think so. The difference is Keane ruined this club when we were in a good position and Jewell is trying to build a team from nothing and make us promotion challengers, the situations when they took over were completely different. If Jewell had the team Keane had when he took over and we were experiencing the run we are on now, perhaps I to would be calling for his head. There have been many times in the past few years where I've thought we need change at Portman Road but now because we've had so much change and upheaval in the past few years we need some continuity on and off the pitch, as for me this is a major problem we have atm and is no fault of PJ. I'm not saying we should have continuity for the sake of it, as I'm sure you noticed I pretty much wanted Keane out of the door as soon as he was appointed and many were arguing against me saying we need continuity, we can't just keep sacking managers, well if you don't appoint the right one in the first place then get rid asap. But I don't think Jewell is completely wrong for the club and he hasn't had enough time for us to effectively judge him yet. Perhaps he is not right for the club but IMO I don't think he will take us backwards as Keane did. All Ipswich fans like sheep, indeed JWM thats why for the past few years I've been posting on 606 and not606 we have had so many dissagreements and that is the reason why we are going backwards, please please JWM have some contructive points(even if I disagree with them) rather than petty insults and just saying everyone is f**king useless, like alot of football fans do. Its like that sketch off of the fast show, where alot of football fans are a synical bunch and everyone is a load of old Bo***cks. I have been pretty impressed with Jewells signing tbh giving situation he is in. He has signed 15 players over a very short period of time, even the best managers would make mistakes and do make mistakes with that many players. If we can get JET playing then he is a phenominal talent, he's one for the future, we need to be patient with him, I'm not convinced that he'll make it but if he does I am convinced he will be a hell of a player for us. And I agree with you on the andrews, bowyer, Bullard, we only needed 2, but as I've said before I don't think he thought we could get Bullard, so moved to get Bowyer and Andrews and then when the chance to sign Bullard came along, it was too good an oppertunity to turn down. I think if he thought he could have signed Bullard at the start of the summer then he wouldn't have signed Bowyer. I think we needed to make so many signings over the summer in all positions that it was a case of picking and mixing, who he could get. I think the next couple of transfer windows will show more of the direction he wants to go in. I have to say aswell that is one thing which I was concerned by at the beggining of the season that Jewell would be affraid to drop, Bullard, Bowyer, Andrews and Leadbitter because they are all big name players and this has beenn the case. I would not be overly dissapointed if Leadbitter were to be sold off in January and would actually quite like Drury to be tried out as when I've seen him he's looked impressive.
Can't you just play two of Bowyer, Bullard, Andrews? I still think that Bullard could be excellent in this league if you have young workhorses around him. He might have been a lazy toad with us but he proved last season he can be classy on the pitch. The fans here who rated JB said that we should have built a team around him. In the end we had Koren who could be our quality player in the middle so Bullard wasn't needed. It's not good seeing Ipswich doing badly especially with so many ex-City players in your squad (Sonko!, Bullard, Andrews & Delaney). My worry for you is that have lots of big names but a lot of them are on the decline. The future for clubs of our size (and larger clubs like yours) is to get a decent amount of youth with some wise old heads.
I don't get how after a few wins, we'll win the league and after a few defeats we're going to get relegated. It really beggers belief, although I'm as pissed as any fan about spending money to watch us play absolute toot, but we don't want to turn into a farse of a club with a high turnover of managers. I agree with ptc in that maybe PJ is not our messiah but all for giving him a bit longer. As for the hatred for Jet - the lad is what 20 / 21??.... Bloody ridiculous, he's been here 3 months and already some have written him off.
We will never agree ptc and thats fine with me because this is a forum and we are allowed to have different points of view. I have given Jewell the benefit of the doubt like I did Keane out of common courtesy. After Keane's first season in charge he should have been sacked but the "give him time brigade" won the arguement and we then waited until the end of January! The problems at the club are not just to do with Jewell but with the faceless owner who wont communicate with the great unwashed ie us fans. Its a farcical situation when you have an onwer who you have never seen or never heard from publically! All this talk about the owner having desire for the premiership is all very well but it means nothing when there is no coherent plan to achieve it. Maybe PTC you have swallowed all the soft soap PR guff that we get fed on but it no longer washes with me! We then have a clueless CEO who knows nothing about how to run a football club and is only interested in helping our faceless owner flog more tickets for the Olympics. I am very nervous about what's going to happen to ITFC once the Olympics are over next year. If we don't get promoted this season which is now incredibly unlikely I have a suspicion that Evans will ditch us despite all the protestations otherwise. Clegg strikes me as a decent man but he is out of his depth and is akin to a rabbit in the headlights. Why is Evans negogiating with players agents when surely it is the CEO that takes care of all the contracts! Then we have Jewell who's recent record has hardly been awe inspiring, just ask any Derby fan about his tenure at Pride Park. The mistakes and missed opportunities have been mounting up since the summer and nothing he can do now will change the direction in which we are heading. I believe that we need a radical approach in sorting out the club from top to bottom and that must start with the sacking of Clegg and Jewell. Evans must surely realise that after the millions spent we have gone backwards? A new experienced CEO who has held similar roles in other football league clubs and George Burley as an interim manager/director of football to steady the ship. Appoint a permanent manager in time after taking stock and making sure that we finally get the right man for the job. I believe that George given the chance will save this club and with his knowledge and experience of ITFC he will be the perfect choice in getting us back to the Ipswich we all knew and once loved. We need a change, its time for change and that change must come NOW.
Keane should never have been appointed IMO and it was blatenly obvious he was useless and out of his depth, after a month into his first season it was obvious and IMO should have gone then. Like I said managers need time, alot of them 2 years minumum to really start sorting out a club and clubs sack managers far too easily but at the same time alot of clubs appoint the wrong manager. For me PJ was not a favoured choice but when I think about the great job he did at Wigan, it made sense, he had although not lots of money, they were the bigger spenders in the division and he bought well. I think he fits in well at the club and I'm going to stick my neck out on the line, given time he will get it right but this season is going to be tough, it always was, whoever was going to be incharge. I actually in a way am pleased we have Marcus Evans at the club. To me he is probably the best benifactor we could have asked for, especially when considering alot of other clubs. He has always backed the manager with funds and has generally been patient with both Jim and Keane, alot more than alot of clubs anyway. He has also tried to keep the traditions of the club at its heart. The one thing he needs to take responsibility for and something that he was completely wrong to do was appoint Keane as manager, it was wrong on nearly every level and we are suffering the consequences now. As for Clegg, I'm not really sure what to make of him and do not really know what his role at the club is or know enough to judge him really but I do always think he generally comes across well but like you say, its strange that Evans is personally getting involved in some of the contract and transfer negotiations when surely thats Cleggs area. Its strange really though how we always judge Chairmen and CEO's, when we know nothing about what they do really and they get criticised when things on the pitch are going wrong. As for knowing nothing of football, in away I don't mind that at all, our best ever Chairman, John Cobbold self confessed that he didn't know the first thing about football, its when they want to interfere with things on the pitch and targeting certain players that the problems start!!
