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  1. The Penguin

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    Don't get me started on the Qatar W/C. It's a horror story.
     
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    lardiman The truth is out there
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    One that the saintly BLM loving Southgate is happy to ignore.

    That's what happens when you get on your high horse like he has, and look down on people who don't toe the fashionable Woke line.
    If fans who don't like players taking the knee need re-educating, what does Southgate and his FA chums need regarding the migrant workers who have been slaughtered building those stadiums in Qatar?

    Don't those poor Asian workers' lives matter?
    Aren't they black enough?


    Taking a knee isn't going to protect their rights or bring them equality.
    It's not going to impress the Qatari's one bit.
    They're laughing at you.
    Playing in the 2022 World Cup Finals supports and endorses the disgusting way that they treat the lowest class in their society.

    Don't pussy out with a trendy gesture Southgate. Do something that will make a difference.
    REFUSE to lead the England team to Qatar. Make the FA sack you, and expose what racist hypocrites they really are.
    Then you'll have shown true leadership against racism.
     
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    There have been enough exposes of the employment of slave labour (literally) over the years, yet no-one anywhere has lifted a finger. Not FIFA, not UEFA, not a single country's football authority. There was the opportunity quite early on to remove the W/C from Qatar, it should have happened then, and been awarded to Australia, who should have had it in the first place but for the criminals at FIFA. They would have organised a brilliant W/C.
     
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    Good luck to England today.

    A victory ought to have us ranked No.1 team in the World, with the Qatar 2022 Finals approaching.
    That will give us massive potential influence, and the opportunity to make a statement that will change International Football forever.

    All the people of this country who passionately support race equality (even and especially those who support knee-taking and BLM) should be absolutely up in arms about the shameful abuses and thousands of deaths in Qatar - all to prepare for this blood-soaked Elite Football freak circus.

    The mass support shown for victims of race crime like George Floyd should be magnified 100 times in the coming 18 months.
    After all, should the lives of those migrant workers matter less just because we do not currently know their names or their faces?
    That information should be spread far and wide.
    Every one of those victims should be remembered as Mr Floyd rightly is.

    But what will we actually see?
    A shameful and embarrassing silence from the FA, and from Gareth Southgate - I am virtually certain.
    It would be great if one of the players - Rashford or Sterling maybe - spoke out about this, and sparked a reaction from the public.

    If the England Football team goes to Qatar, the blood of those workers will be on their hands too.
    And I'll keep saying that for the next 18 months.
    I very much hope more and more others will be saying it too - until there are too many of us to ignore.

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    Will not be watching the World Cup in Qatar. It is a disgrace that this is going ahead. They were only awarded it because FIFA officials took backhanders.
     
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    I was trying to cheer myself up dreaming of us going to Qatar reinforced from lessons we have learnt this year, but sadly it is a disgrace the tournament has gone there and continues despite the ruoured number of deaths amongst the slave work force. Not entirely the fault of the FA, but they are complicit in this and should push for a change of venue.
     
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    The FA and every other football authority. There should be a minute's silence before every game for the slaves who dies building the stadiums.
     
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    Any gesture made by authorities or players will be an insult.
    Just going to Qatar, accepting their hospitality and playing in the tournament shows support for the mistreatment of migrant workers. It shows approval for the way their lives were thrown away, forced to work in dangerous conditions.

    We can't just pretend to look the other way.
    And a minute silence or taking the knee won't make it alright.
    If we don't oppose what the Qataris have done, then we support it.

    BLACK LIVES MATTER according to the FA. But MIGRANT WORKERS LIVES DON'T MATTER.
    Who are they to pick and choose, while talking down to ordinary fans?
    ALL lives matter.
     
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    Damage limitation isn't a bad thing in itself, but people & organisations can then hide behind their new guidance, and use it as excuse not to do more.

    Somebody smoking 40 per day will be at less risk if they cut down to 10 per day.
    But they'll be safest if the quit completely.

    If there is evidence that heading the ball causes brain damage, then there should be only two choices in my view;
    A) Protective headgear that is proven to work
    B) A ban on heading the ball - at all levels.

    The first option is technically tricky in my view. Would take years to prove and probably can't be done.
    The second option will mean football will never be quite the same again. Which would be a shame.
    But hundreds or thousands of ex-players with dementia is also a dreadful thing.

    Sadly the biggest difference is that the dementia sufferers are out of sight pretty much all the time.
    Whereas football gets a huge outing watched by millions every weekend.
     
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    Talking of the European Super League…

    “We are pleased that going forward we will no longer be subject to ongoing UEFA's threats. Our aim is to keep developing the Super League project in a constructive and cooperative manner”

     
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    Does this mean it's illegal to kick them out of European competitions? I'm delighted to see Barcelona in serious financial difficulty
     
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    probably, they can do what they want.

    Also delighted that they are getting some comeuppance, likewise Madrid
     
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    :emoticon-0171-star: Harry Kane :emoticon-0171-star:

    Claims he has a "Gentlemen's agreement" about leaving the Club, so has spat out his dummy.

    Just one problem, "Mr England" Captain Fantastic and example to all youngsters who want to play the Beautiful Game...
    To have a Gentlemen's agreement you have to be a Gentleman.
    Not a spoilt brat chucking his toys out of the pram.
     
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    There is no doubt about the risk of heading the ball. It DOES cause brain injury. Each header is very minor, but for professional players, especially defenders, this adds up and adds up and eventually becomes serious. How can it be acceptable to keep smashing your head against an object knowing that it causes brain damage?

    Wearing headgear would change the game too much and is too visible.

    Therefore the only answer is to ban heading.

    This would be difficult and take a long time to become fully accepted and no doubt current players would continue to make mistakes and carry on heading the ball in response to their muscle memory, BUT for their sakes and the sakes of all future players, the football authorities need to make this difficult decision as soon as possible. Any kids starting playing the game now from U7's onwards for example, would never know any different and would not understand why we ever allowed headers in the first place.

    It WILL just be accepted in the fullness of time and the game will be much safer for it.

    We don't need any more evidence, so stop pontificating about this, show leadership and make the tough decision.
     
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    Shame on our Club for not paying minimum wage to some employees.

    I hope this is a legacy of the Duchatelet & ESI days.

    Mr Sandgaard - please make sure everyone working at our club - however lowly their position - is being paid at least what the law requires.
     
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    Messi now available on a free. Sadly, he claims to be leaving Barça as this seasons project isn't competitive enough. Can we convince him ours is better?
     
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