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Discussion in 'Charlton' started by lardiman, Mar 26, 2020.

  1. The Penguin

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    Cortisone injections were used a lot more then to get players through a game.
     
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    I remembered reading a book by Tommy Smith. He said Bill Shankly would not talk to you if you were on the treatment table. He had untold cortisone injections and played many games when he shouldn't. The upshot is that he ruined his knee and ended up disabled.
     
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  3. The Elfsborg Sparrow

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    I saw Terry Hulock trotted out before one game. He was one of the last old school 'real men' as a footballer. The poor bugger was barely able to walk and you could drive a bus between his legs.
    Spanner or not, a f***** shame. A bloody good footballer in his role as the central midfield hard man.
     
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  4. The Pub Landlord

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    I wouldn't think cortisone would patch up a cruciate or Achilles tear as these pretty well immobilise. Or am I wrong on this?
     
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  5. The Penguin

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    Of course you're not wrong.
     
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  6. The Pub Landlord

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    OK thanks, never had tissue injuries in my playing days - either healthy and fighting fit or out with broken bone / dislocation - so I have no real idea of when cortisone was used.
     
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  7. lardiman

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    I'm not a doctor, but I'm ashamed of doctors who allow powerful pain killing injections to be used to allow injured players to play.
    Severe pain is there for a reason.
    Masking it only allows the injured person to make a bad injury worse. It's completely unethical.
     
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    It must have been commonplace when you think how many games teams used to play, with a First division of 22 teams, Cup replays, and they weren't allowed to play weakened teams, and so would put out the same team game after game. Something like Madison's minor knock, whatever it is, you didn't used to hear of players given a game off as a precaution, just in case.
     
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    Watching Reading v Forest, and Lyle Taylor looks very pissed off <laugh><laugh><laugh>

    I don’t think Hughton’s cautious tactics are to his liking, and with Forest marooned at the bottom of the table, the Pink Haired Prick is not getting the level of attention we all know he craves.
     
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    I doubt if Hughton would have signed him.
     
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  14. lardiman

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    Maybe Forest will try to loan Taylor back to Charlton for the second half of this season.

    Lee Bowyer was very charitable to the turncoat. Said nice things about him after being stabbed in the back.
    I wouldn't put it past LB to take Traitor back if he was offered.

    Personally I don't care now how many goals LT scored for us in the past.
    If it was down to me he can f**k off.
     
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  15. The Pub Landlord

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    We differ there. I don't let things linger.

    If he can add something to the team I would see him back without problem. He was called out for the way he behaved and would have to live with some lingering resentment within the fan base, but the only important day is tomorrow.

    An analogy: I sacked a member of staff for dishonesty. She has now paid back everything I could identify and if she now wants to come into the pub I will take her money as a customer and be civil to her. My manager thinks I am mad and wants me to ban her for life, but the way I see it is that if she and her friends bring business why should I send it elsewhere?

    In the same way Taylor could be better inside our tent pi**ing out than outside our tent pi**ing in. What's done is done.
     
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    Good thing the decision will never be down to me then.

    Fair play, if LT came back I'd take any goals he scores for Charlton, naturally.
    But I'd never spare one good word for the bloke. He's dead to me.
     
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  17. The Elfsborg Sparrow

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    Taylor would not come back. Regardless of what may have been said publically I imagine Bowyer is not a fan of Taylor after the way he left us.
    I have no problem with how he left.
     
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    Wouldn't need to love him, just accept what he brings to the team.

    As @The mighty Elfsborg says, there is probably little chance of him returning. He has had a taste of the big money and if he were to leave Nottingham he would be looking for a similar package which we cannot offer.

    But he's not the first and wouldn't be the last to leave a club with bad feeling but then find he had been better off where he was. Some go back, most don't. Football clubs don't hesitate to ditch players (or managers) that fail to reach expectation, and players should not be vilified for treating clubs the same way. Just my opinion, everyone thinks differently.

    In the same way as I never hated Scott Parker although I was very disappointed when he left.
     
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  19. The Elfsborg Sparrow

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    @The Pub Landlord, I know my football<cheers>
     
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