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Football in a pan ****e

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Cest Advocaat, Mar 3, 2012.

  1. Cest Advocaat

    Cest Advocaat Well-Known Member

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    Rangers face a £75m tax bill and could be wound up; Portsmouth are in a total mess; Port Vale £4m in debt, Darlo are buggered and these are merely the tip of a huge iceberg imo.

    I bet there will be another 15 or 20 on the brink and a further 20 seriously considering their long term futures.

    It's time that the game wakes up and smells the coffee and players have to understand they have played the biggest part in bringing football to its knees over the last 20 years.

    Paying £50k per week plus for average Joe Soap players, has ruined football and led to wage bills in excess of 80% of turnover. Excessive demands and total greed has bankrupt the English game and the Scottish game alike.

    It's time to put our houses in order imo. Tell greedy, money grabbing mercenaries to sod off and give them the boot, develop home grown players and keep hold of them. If they do well and a man city or similar want to then give us megabucks to buy them then fine. We make money on the backs of their foolishness.

    I'd be happy for Mon to start and look down the leagues this summer and unearth some young gems for less wages and fees. If they become superstars them we benefit anyway.

    What I don't want is to put the club in the Portsmouth, Rangers or any other clubs insolvet position, at any time in the future, in the vain hope we will challenge the top 4 clubs anytime soon. Without a megabillionaire to fund things and pay off debts, its a pointless exercise imo. We have reached the FA Cup quarter finals this year because of good management, not extra money spent and that's the way forward.

    Football is in a pan ****e alright but its all of its own making and only football can get itself out of it.
     
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  2. Tickler

    Tickler Well-Known Member

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    Agree with this

    If a football club cant pay its transfer fees/wages/general costs, then why chance it

    Seems daft to me, especially with Rangers, looks to me like they spent a load, won the season a few times, a couple of cups, and now there ****ed basically
     
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  3. connor wigham

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    i think hey need to put an amarican salary cap in...
     
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  4. Obertan's Rancid Toe

    Obertan's Rancid Toe Well-Known Member

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    I remember in school when someone else got in trouble you secretly felt pleased it wasn't you, and I get the same feeling in a way when I read stuff like this.. Not that I want the clubs to close (well I wouldn't mind Rangers) but because I know it could easily have been us were it not for slim Mike!
     
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  5. MrRAWhite

    MrRAWhite Well-Known Member

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    I believe it was Jimmy Hill who was behind the initial break up of the wage structures that were in place in British football, so there's another thing we can pin on that man.
    It just can't go on the way it is, and as I have stated in a previous article, we should be looking to the USA example where every club in a given league has an equal and set budget to work with.
     
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  6. blackcatsteve

    blackcatsteve Well-Known Member

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    I dont blame the players, I also dont think a salary cap would work in all honesty.

    (income) Man U make 300 million a year, We make 74 million, Swansea at a guess 50 million, whats the salary cap going to be, 15 million?, why cant Man U spend what they earn, and it needs to be a world wide salary cap, but then you have the problem with cost of living, taxes etc.

    Man U 15 million a year 50% tax
    B Munich 15 milion a year 15% tax

    I probably wouldnt be playing for Man U.

    I also dont think its the players fault, its supply and demand, 20 teams, 30 players per team 600 players in the PL, its not that many from all the millions that play it, and if the clubs are making 300 million why not pay the players what they should earn, after all its the players that puts bums on seats, and gets sky involved, no players = no cubs.

    another thing if there was no cap, but all clubs spent only 10% of their turnover on wages, most, would be saying "where is the rest going, they should give a lot more to the players, instead of the owner getting ever richer", but now they are getting too much.

    There is that much cash in the game at the top end, its going to be hard for anyone to catch up, but its not imposible.
     
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  7. Billy Death

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    I really feel for the Pompey fans. What is it now? Three times in four years or summat? Imagine if that was us.

    Glasgow Rangers have always been my second team & are far too big a club to go to the wall.
     
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  8. concrete tony

    concrete tony Well-Known Member

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    I think we have to accept that the big wages are over, the club comes first. The premier league may have had it's day as the "best league in the world" as these wages are unsustainable.
     
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  9. Riever

    Riever Well-Known Member

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    There is no other business that I can think of where it is seemingly impossible for a firm to properly go to the wall - they simply go in to administration, shed their debts and start again. Any other business would be wound up and fold so why not a football club.

    We are all hell bent on preserving the status quo at all costs and players therefore ask for what they like because they are always looked after, chairman agree to it because ultimately the club is always resurrected.

    In my opinion nothing will change until some major institutions do actualy fold - it is always easier when it is not your team but I beleive it has to happen for the good of the game becuase hopefully the rest will look at those who disappear and learn lessons
     
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